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Should the Hafted Blade weapons have their name changed?

Yes; Hafted Blade to Guan Dao, LHB to Naginata
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No; Names stay (please explain)
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Offline Dexxtaa

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[STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« on: October 17, 2011, 02:49:44 pm »
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I was going through the weapons the other day (while I was muted) while talking to Onimaho, and I noticed similarities between the hafted blade weapons and the real life weapons called the Guan Dao (Chinese weapon) and the other the Japanese Naginata.

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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2011, 03:40:05 pm »
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Naginatas had the same blade as katanas, it's just that they were on fixed on long poles.

Hafted blade looks too big, but I guess it's close enough if you want to RP as naginata samurai. Might as well keep it like it is?
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 03:43:02 pm »
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Doesn't really matter what you call it in my opinion. Hafted Blade is a more open name, though, so people who are dressed as europeans won't feel like complete fools when they use a hafter blade as they would if it was called Guan Dao.
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2011, 04:56:35 pm »
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Quote from: Ninja_Khorin on October 17, 2011, 03:43:02 pm
Doesn't really matter what you call it in my opinion. Hafted Blade is a more open name, though, so people who are dressed as europeans won't feel like complete fools when they use a hafter blade as they would if it was called Guan Dao.
They should feel like fools, they look like fools anyway.
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2011, 05:30:31 pm »
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Quote from: Ninja_Khorin on October 17, 2011, 03:43:02 pm
Doesn't really matter what you call it in my opinion. Hafted Blade is a more open name, though, so people who are dressed as europeans won't feel like complete fools when they use a hafter blade as they would if it was called Guan Dao.


But they are complete fools, no matter the name, because it is an Asian weapon and it looks like one^^
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2011, 05:41:41 pm »
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rename them spammy blade and spammy longer blade.

I think Glaive looks better for that ahisguru loook.
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 12:59:29 pm »
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just that the 1 that looks like long hafted blade is shorter then the other
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2011, 03:32:19 pm »
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These weapons have more to do with Mongolians/Chinese/Koreans, not Japanese. There was a model of a proper naginata presented to the dev team long time ago.... end of story.
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2011, 03:35:25 pm »
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Quote from: Bjord on October 17, 2011, 03:40:05 pm
Naginatas had the same blade as katanas

this.  so no.  naginatas later wher replaced by nodachis btw. 
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2011, 03:46:01 pm »
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Quote from: ThePoopy on October 18, 2011, 12:59:29 pm
Pudao
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Hsu Quandao
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http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/polearms-c-239.html?osCsid=fefb2a37d9e2f4d6833379386ff54314

just that the 1 that looks like long hafted blade is shorter then the other

I like this idea, too!

I'm not naming stuff from Japan JUST because it's Japanese, I mean come on. Coming from Japan, I'm not exactly obsessed with it quite as much as most Westerners are.

I'd just like a name that's different from "hafted blade" and "long hafted blade"
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2011, 04:23:13 pm »
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I like the "Hafted blade" and "Long Hafted blade" because:

1) For those of us not used to the japanese or chinese or whatever denomination.
2) Because those types of weapons weren't only japanese or only chinese, since we only have "one" hafted blade and long hafted blade, they shouldn't suddenly become the property of one culture/history or the other, because it will feel stupid for the player that could pretend their hafted blade was this or that.
3) The MB ones are rough designs that resemble many historical weapons, without being precisely one of them.
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Re: [STAT] Name change : Hafted Blade, Long Hafted blade
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 10:57:22 pm »
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Quote from: Kafein on October 18, 2011, 04:23:13 pm
I like the "Hafted blade" and "Long Hafted blade" because:

1) For those of us not used to the japanese or chinese or whatever denomination.
2) Because those types of weapons weren't only japanese or only chinese, since we only have "one" hafted blade and long hafted blade, they shouldn't suddenly become the property of one culture/history or the other, because it will feel stupid for the player that could pretend their hafted blade was this or that.
3) The MB ones are rough designs that resemble many historical weapons, without being precisely one of them.

Explain the Bec de Corbin, Lucerne hammer and the Bohemian Earspoon.

Why do the French get to coin the weapon name, if the Germans use it, too?
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