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Should Shield Bash be added into game?

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Shield Bash
« on: October 11, 2011, 09:09:33 pm »
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Topic name says all :) Give shielders some love, change kick animation into Shield Bash!

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 09:57:14 pm »
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As I have said it numerous times here's what I think they should do if possible:

1) Shield bash to replace kicking.
2) Shield holding on foot on the realistic spot at the middle instead of this system.
3) Shield blocking should be directional like manual blocking. A successfull directional block with shield should do little to no damage to the shield. If the block direction is wrong the shield should then take damage but the hit should be blocked.
4) Pommel strike for 2h and unshielded 1h to replace kicking.
5) Strike with the middle part of the pole for polearms to replace kicking.
6) Archers etc. can live without kicking.

That's my recipe for perfect game :)
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 10:03:24 pm »
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When replacing the kick and working the same as the kick, I say yes, cause this looks much better!

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 10:04:47 pm »
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As I have said it numerous times here's what I think they should do if possible:

1) Shield bash to replace kicking.
2) Shield holding on foot on the realistic spot at the middle instead of this system.
3) Shield blocking should be directional like manual blocking. A successfull directional block with shield should do little to no damage to the shield. If the block direction is wrong the shield should then take damage but the hit should be blocked.
4) Pommel strike for 2h and unshielded 1h to replace kicking.
5) Strike with the middle part of the pole for polearms to replace kicking.
6) Archers etc. can live without kicking.

That's my recipe for perfect game :)

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 02:18:44 am »
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I love it, looks great.  Would also be megasuperawesomecool to have shield rim shot bash as well.  Shield goes horizontal and you smash someone in the face with the outer edge of shield

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 06:26:05 am »
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I love it, looks great.  Would also be megasuperawesomecool to have shield rim shot bash as well.  Shield goes horizontal and you smash someone in the face with the outer edge of shield

That also would require the hold on the shield to be switched to the realistic one.
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2011, 07:50:39 am »
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Animation needs some work when the shield is "chambered" but other than that, good idea.

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 01:42:50 pm »
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yes @ the shield bash animation (as well as the pommel strike idea).




no to the shield blocking being directional, that's plain stupid.

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 06:22:19 pm »
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How is that stupid? For one you would get rid of the force field. Also you could with skill, low level shield and some luck take a ton of beating if you block to the right direction. That way skill with shield would be just as rewarded as skill with manual blocking.
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 07:54:06 pm »
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How is that stupid? For one you would get rid of the force field. Also you could with skill, low level shield and some luck take a ton of beating if you block to the right direction. That way skill with shield would be just as rewarded as skill with manual blocking.
shields would last forever if someone is a decent blocker?
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 08:45:24 pm »
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How is that stupid? For one you would get rid of the force field. Also you could with skill, low level shield and some luck take a ton of beating if you block to the right direction. That way skill with shield would be just as rewarded as skill with manual blocking.
Shields are designed for covering areas, not single directional blocking, that's why shielders are sent in the charges in the first line and that's why they should be the first to breach the walls. Changing that is just  taking variety and tactics out of this game. I thought it's pretty obvious, but there, i've explained it for ya.

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 08:45:26 pm »
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Well not necessarily forever. I wouldn't have a problem with it even if they'd do.
disclaimer: I'm not a shielder. A pole.
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 08:47:36 pm »
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Shields are designed for covering areas, not single directional blocking, that's why shielders are sent in the charges in the first line and that's why they should be the first to breach the walls. Changing that is just  taking variety and tactics out of this game. I thought it's pretty obvious, but there, i've explained it for ya.

Perhaps I wasn't being detailed enough. Blocking normally would work the way it does now.
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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 08:49:27 pm »
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Perhaps I wasn't being detailed enough. Blocking normally would work the way it does now.
Yeah sorry my mistake. But then again your suggestion would make shielders too powerful imo =).

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Re: Shield Bash
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 09:29:02 pm »
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I wouldn't care if they were the most super op thing in the game if realism is added  :lol:
I've played original mount & blade something like 20 times through. I've been in warband beta since 0.6<something> and I have never ever played a shielder. Even as a rhodok or swadian xbowman I always took 2 bags of bolts and no shield. I just hate how it is implemented.
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