Shield Collision Detection too small of an area

[Tzar]

At the very least, revert shields back to last patches qualities while its looked into~ plz.  This is a major problem as a good part of using shields IS to block passages.

Hmn... maybe but if they removed night time cycle it would solve this issue straight away

[Konrax]

Shield has been really gimped imho.

You can face hug and ghost swing through a shield, the block area has been reduced, heirlooming shields has been gimped, and now they reduced its hitbox again.

Need to do something to shield to make it work properly again, its tiring having your super amazing h4x advantage do absolutely nothing when you need it.

[Bulzur]

Heres a short video highlighting how bad the problem is.  (Sorry meant to do it in higher rez, but whatever)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AIWodyQvq4

Wow ! Thanks for taking the time to do this vid, i didn't know the problem was that bad. Even though i did experience it before, seeing without looking at the opponent's attack is totally different.

I also seem to get hit from the front while my shield is up. The guy walks sideway, and when he start his swing, it's between my shield and me, and it's not blocked, clean hit. Dunno if it's just my imagination though. I'll try to be more aware.

[Jarlek]

Wow ! Thanks for taking the time to do this vid, i didn't know the problem was that bad. Even though i did experience it before, seeing without looking at the opponent's attack is totally different.

I also seem to get hit from the front while my shield is up. The guy walks sideway, and when he start his swing, it's between my shield and me, and it's not blocked, clean hit. Dunno if it's just my imagination though. I'll try to be more aware.

That's because he is hitting "around" your shield. Kinda stupid since the only way to block it is to look to the side, which means he can hit you with any of the other attack directions. And you can't attack back fast enough since sideswings has a limit on how fast you can turn your character when doing them and overheads will most often be too slow/make you not able to turn the camera (and thus character) to the enemy. The way I found to fix this is by never facehugging, but dodging/keeping my range, which makes enemies cry "backpedler!" (even though if I DON'T they call me "facehugger!", sigh) and just trying to keep the range in a sweet spot.

[awesomeasaurus]

Holy crap, fix it OH GOD FIX IT!

QFT. +1!

[Crob28]

this is annoying as hell in random 1v1 fighting as well, the guy i'm fighting will literally warp through meand get a free shot at my back as i try desperately to turn around and face him again 

[Zekerage]

Dev's, this issue needs to be addressed asap!

[ManOfWar]

Can we get a god damn dev response?

[rustyspoon]

this is annoying as hell in random 1v1 fighting as well, the guy i'm fighting will literally warp through meand get a free shot at my back as i try desperately to turn around and face him again 

I've noticed this more myself now too. Not sure if it's lag, hitboxes, or a combination or what.

The other thing I've noticed too is that my 1-hander glances more after this recent patch. This isn't my sword bouncing off some guy next to me. This is during 1 v 1's.

[Jarlek]

I've noticed this more myself now too. Not sure if it's lag, hitboxes, or a combination or what.

The other thing I've noticed too is that my 1-hander glances more after this recent patch. This isn't my sword bouncing off some guy next to me. This is during 1 v 1's.

Same. Compared to the "never-glance"^TM 2hs and the "not-glancing-just-reduced-damage-which-wouldn't-matter-anyway-since-the-enemy-is-out-of-range"^TM polearms, the 1h really should get a wider "sweetspot" for delivering damage. They are already the shortest and least damaging, why should they be the most glancing too?

We are not talking about DAMAGE glancing, btw, but animation glancing from hitting too early/late in the animation. Considering that you can't turn while swinging (with a 1h) AND you move slow as fuck with a shield, this really is a big issue.

[ManOfWar]

Another pain is that the shield counts as a part of your body when it comes to getting kicked. Does this makes sense?

This gives increased range for kicks against shields and since we already need to get close to hit the person I think this should be changed.

[ponyboy]

bumpp

[awesomeasaurus]

bump for attention from devs/players.

[Rumblood]

While I have seen some of the 'ghosting' when players get near each other, I have not been seeing my arrows passing through shields. I have not noticed that aiming at feet suddenly works more often. From a ranged perspective, I do not see an issue with collision detection. From a melee perspective, I've seen people able to 'bend' their weapons around a shield and hit since Day 1.

[Konrax]

When you get up close and facehug I noticed that attacks chambered can swing through the shield if the weapon is past it already.

Many of these issues aren't a problem for the huscarl shield, however the primary reason for the nerf was that shield, all the other ones were over nerfed I think because of it.