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Does the Warhammer need to be looked at by the Balancing team?

Yes
18 (36.7%)
No
31 (63.3%)

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Voting closed: October 10, 2011, 09:16:21 pm

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Offline Konrax

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 02:19:57 am »
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Run of the Mill Tincan
24 STR, 8 IF, 75 HP
Transitional Plate: 53 armor
Plate Mittens: 10 Armor
Total Body Armor: 63
STR: 18
PS: 6
WPF: 125
Warhammer: 31b

Avg Dmg: 18
High Dmg: 29
Low: Dmg: 7

Average hits required to kill target: 5
STR: 18
PS: 6
WPF: 125
Elite Scimitar: 31c

Avg Dmg: 10
High Dmg: 21
Low: Dmg: 0

Average hits to kill target:  8
Heirloomed Tincan
24 STR, 8 IF, 75 HP
Total Body Armor: 63+14= 77 armor
STR: 18
PS: 6
WPF: 125
Warhammer: 31b

Avg Dmg: 12
High Dmg: 23
Low: Dmg: 0

Average hits to kill target:  7
STR: 18
PS: 6
WPF: 125
Elite Scimitar: 31c

Avg Dmg: 7
High Dmg: 14
Low: Dmg: 0

Average hits to kill target:  11


so besides doing close to double the dmg of an equivilent cut weapon, I dont know about you but I dont have all day to try and hit a tincan 8-11 times with a cut weapon to kill them.  They will have friends show up before that.

Your comparison isn't very accurate in the sense that your comparing the BEST hammer weapon to a sword that is ideal for its speed and length.

Try your calculation again with a Langes Messer, or Long Espada Stabs, or other swords that have superiour stats in every context except for the fact they don't do blunt damage or have a knock down.

Even a sword designed for speed and length will still land a hit on plate armour instead of being completely negated.

When armour values were changed hammer class weapons were indirectly nerfed.

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 02:26:47 am »
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Sorry dude, you are dead wrong.  Anyone attacking tincans with a sword is stupid. 

Is it easier to get hits with a sword? Sure
Will you likely land more hits with a sword? Sure


Its quite the opposite of what you're staying.  Armor absorbs MUCH more sword damage these days than it used to.  Sure you can stagger guys in plate with some rinkedink sword but you will sit there hacking away for minutes before you kill them.  Blunt on the other hand, knocks them down, gives you free hits and takes half the number of hits.

Blunt take a dangerous opponent and make them less dangerous when they're on the ground and you get free hits.  They are the great neutralizer.  Just ask the guys in plate what they fear, it sure isnt some sword that does 5-10 dmg a hit.  They'll gladly take 2-4 1h sword hits, so they can 1shot you, whereas the blunt guy knocked them down and just did half their hp in 2 hits.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2011, 02:27:49 am by Digglez »

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 03:16:31 am »
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The shitslapper fucking owns if you buff it it will become op
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 11:15:32 am »
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Iberian Mace gets results you stupid chief! I think the Warhammer needs a little love. The mace for the money is a much better propersition.
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 04:31:31 pm »
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Iberian Mace gets results you stupid chief! I think the Warhammer needs a little love. The mace for the money is a much better propersition.

I think IM is a better pick too for a hammer class weapon imho.

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2011, 07:57:07 pm »
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Did anyone say MACE?!?!?

I fucking love the Winged Mace. Whacking tincans right and left, BOOYAH!
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 01:03:22 am »
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Did anyone say MACE?!?!?

I fucking love the Winged Mace. Whacking tincans right and left, BOOYAH!

doesnt weight enough and therefore gets less knockdowns...which is about half the point of using a blunt weapon

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 01:11:15 am »
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Sorry dude, you are dead wrong.  Anyone attacking tincans with a sword is stupid. 

I beg to differ, and will see you on the field  *slaps Digglez with his glove*, with good PS even swords with be efficient agaisnt armor, and then if you can introduce their face to a stab or two, you'll be fine.
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 03:57:33 pm »
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Warhammer isnt what it used to be, I now also swap to italian sword it feels far more effective, sure the old tin can takes 2 more hits to take down but at least it feels fast and I can keep some distance.

Warhammer just aint what it used to be...

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 04:04:31 pm »
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The shitslapper fucking owns if you buff it it will become op
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2011, 04:27:16 pm »
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Warhammer isnt what it used to be, I now also swap to italian sword it feels far more effective, sure the old tin can takes 2 more hits to take down but at least it feels fast and I can keep some distance.

Warhammer just aint what it used to be...

This right here.... is what I'm talking about.

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 10:11:12 pm »
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I love the biased hate towards this weapon when its cheaper counterpart (Iberian Mace) is actually a better weapon because of its length.

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2011, 10:36:38 pm »
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Someone's just mad because they have a +3 Warhammer and nobody wants to trade it when this certain someone also asks for money on top of it. Lul.
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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2011, 11:47:23 pm »
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I think warhammer and mil hammer should both get +1 speed.

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Re: Warhammer
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2011, 11:51:48 pm »
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I think warhammer and mil hammer should both get +1 speed.

You think anyone would notice?