[Big Balance] Horses, THE ANSWER?!?!?!

[Erathsmus]

[Wiltzu]

I think the horse's bump is way too op, i mean seriously if there's 10 shielders shields up in line the horse can just run straight through them and bump every1     so not a singel buff to the horses i say.

[Digglez]

try thinking your idea out before posting this junk

[Thucydides]

I think the horse's bump is way too op, i mean seriously if there's 10 shielders shields up in line the horse can just run straight through them and bump every1     so not a singel buff to the horses i say.

duh you retard, try grouping in a square formation instead of a line. first line KD while second and third line fucks the horse

[Wiltzu]

it was a fucking example -.-

[Braeden]

I actually like "reduce horse prices" and "make horses take slots"

Not sure about stat buffs, or horse archer buffs, but the basic idea is a nice concept, I think.

[Thomek]

Make horses take slots.

+1

Main reason you can never balance cav is that it's outside of the slot-system.

[Bulzur]

Make horses take slots.

+1

Main reason you can never balance cav is that it's outside of the slot-system.

Agreed.
"But it's expensive" isn't enough of a balance argument. Every class would love to have a 30k weapon that con onehit cav. Like a 400reach flamberge with 50cut. And lolstab please.
Horse archers can still take hornbow+2stacks of arrows, or yamibow+1stack of arrow. And we won't see thoses horrible to deal with 1h/shield + hornbow+¨1stackof arrows "i can kill anyone". But they'll need some more love, so... 1 free Horse archery skill ?
And lowering a bit horse's cost would be enough.

If you up horse's stats, this is going to be horrible.

[Kafein]

Agreed.
"But it's expensive" isn't enough of a balance argument. Every class would love to have a 30k weapon that con onehit cav.

They don't need 30k weapons that onehit cav. All classes already have 10k (or less) weapons that do it, except 1h. 2h have swords, poles have pikes, awlpikes and long spears, archers have... (surprisingly) bows, throwers have throwing junk and xbowers have xbows.

Try to imagine what you'd do if suddenly your prefered weapon costed 20k more. You wouldn't change ?

[Malaclypse]

I rarely, rarely one-hit cav on my 9 PS pikeman alt. Only when they let me (give me a speed bonus). I don't know what kind of setup you use that does so, Kafein.

[Erathsmus]

try thinking your idea out before posting this junk

Nice constructive critisizm, go troll somewhere else admin wannabe.

ANYWAYS, I do agree that horse bumps are annoying, and by buffs I do not reffere to buffing the bump, just the stats of the horse itself by a slight amount. Especially since it will be considered a part of your equipable slots.

Edit: I will put the not buffing bumps in my main post, ty.

[Black Wind]

I like the concept of horses taking slots.

As for buffs? I think it isn't necessary, especially for horse archers.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

I had to hit a mamaluk horse 14 times with a broad axe (35c) with 7PS before it died. That was at the end of the battle after the rider was dead, I've got no idea how many hits it had taken before that. So... no, horses are OP death machines that have been known to kill people after the rider was dead from a bump (ie me, the other day. Was loltastic).

[PhantomZero]

The slot system wasn't for the sole purpose of nerfing cav, it was done to restructure how Melee could also carry multiple types of weapons, becoming one man armies, in addition to pulling a pike out of their asshole.

This would really only effect lancers and HA and their ability to choose to have a 1H sidearm or not, HA of course could opt to take 1 less quiver.

Horse bumping has absolutely no effect if you have body armor above 50 so I would like to see something done about that first, or the rest of you should just wear heavier armor. The horse is expensive, and the expense does do a good job of limiting its use. However, the marketplace has nullified that balance as most players by now have unlimited gold, just sell your heirloom point or do some trading/scaming.

and dangah, your anecdotal evidence does not stand up to testing, please try again. Remember, an object in motion tends to stay in motion, until enough peasant's have sated it's bloodlust.

[Snoozer]

i hate horse bumps im infantry that says enough.but they should n0t be nerfed its a GIANT ARMOR CLAD FUCKING HORSE how would it NOT kill you if you get trampled by it.maybe it should be slowed down more after the bump other then that it should not be nerfed.

but making a slot system on horses WOULD TOTALLY nerf them on ground seeing how it would be 2slot lance+shield1slot+1slot horse once they get knocked off there dead trying to poke you with a lance the whole time(i hate longspears n shit enough as it is i wouldnt want to deal with cav like that too)...or there going to be a rinning away douche bags trying to find a weapon.....both are fucked up in different ways and i would want to deal with them