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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #180 on: February 03, 2012, 01:22:29 pm »
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Ironclad, 300, Troy?.. Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies?.. You smoke crack?

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« Reply #181 on: February 03, 2012, 07:16:59 pm »
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Ironclad, 300, Troy?.. Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies?.. You smoke crack?

I was going to say the same thing when someone suggested "A Knights Tale."  I almost threw up in my mouth, LOL.

The crowd singing "We will rock you" during a joust tournament.  Really?  That movie was terribad.

I liked 300 though....it was a great movie, but only loosely historical of course.
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #182 on: February 04, 2012, 04:14:02 pm »
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096928/
the medieval part was pretty accurate
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #183 on: February 08, 2012, 04:01:26 am »
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If you want good martial arts movie watch the Last blades man.  based on history / romance of the three kingdoms, good watch for dynasty warriors fans.
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #184 on: February 09, 2012, 01:42:19 pm »
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If you want good martial arts movie watch the Last blades man.  based on history / romance of the three kingdoms, good watch for dynasty warriors fans.

imdb link? cant find an exact match to that title  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #185 on: February 09, 2012, 01:58:46 pm »
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I think it's called the "Lost" bladesman, not "Last" Bladesman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Bladesman

But wait, since when are these movies accurate? Anyone remembers HERO?  :lol:
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #186 on: February 09, 2012, 03:32:42 pm »
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Indeed lost bladesman, my mistake.

The love interest in the film is retarded and completely overplayed by the movie.  By the fight scenes are cool enough to make up for that.
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #187 on: February 09, 2012, 07:44:45 pm »
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I always get the impression that an important part of Asian film making is "make it as unrealistic as possible". Never saw an Asian movie that actually tried to show real fighting, how it probably looked like.
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« Reply #188 on: February 09, 2012, 10:22:50 pm »
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I always get the impression that an important part of Asian film making is "make it as unrealistic as possible". Never saw an Asian movie that actually tried to show real fighting, how it probably looked like.
If you really think that the western movies show proper fighting , you're terribly wrong. It's just as staged and fake as it is in most asian titles. It's obviously done that way for entertainment reasons, for the audience. In many asian movies they either use the over-choriographed approach or the over-gory approach (although that can be also said about the western movie-makers).

I don't know about about you, but for example i enjoy Kurosawa's battle/duel scene's.

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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #189 on: February 09, 2012, 11:03:51 pm »
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Bad

Better (At least has some dirty tricks and a few "desperate" actions  :wink:)

Pretty decent

Really good! (You stab where you can, and Viggo Mortensen is that exhausted after a few minutes, he can't even push that dead Frenchman off himself any more)

Another nice scene is this one, from the same movie. I like how they need to stab that big trumpeter over twenty times until he goes down, or how the main character uses a trick at 1:53 which does look like a real trick you would be trained to and use in fighting.

I like the whole "kill whoever you can and then save your sorry ass"-attitude of the whole movie.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #190 on: February 09, 2012, 11:11:52 pm »
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So you've found one spanish historical movie to contradict my statement ? Congratulations =). I was gonna watch that one btw, thanks for reminding me.


P.S. a bit of a n offtopic- my fave fight scene in a movie :D  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnT0EgNZ7Kg

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« Reply #191 on: February 09, 2012, 11:15:29 pm »
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Wait a minute.. there is a knife in his back?

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Or, what is it? Looks like a knife.
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #192 on: February 09, 2012, 11:20:03 pm »
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"War of the Arrow", a korean movie, is pretty realistic.  Cept for a couple things (archer trick-shots).

"Princess Bride" was pretty realistic combat. :)

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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2012, 11:25:55 pm »
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So you've found one spanish historical movie to contradict my statement ? Congratulations =). I was gonna watch that one btw, thanks for reminding me.

Well, I just wanted to say that I didn't know an Asian movie with such battle scenes. It's always whirling around some weird bamboo spear with soft shaft and hitting around enemies on their ears like it was a wet towel, and flying through the air with the help of invisible but obivous ropes. That's what I saw from Asian movies.  :?

Edit: another movie I think I can recommend to anyone who isn't too much into historic realism is The Messenger: Joan of Arc. It has a few bullshit elements, but all in all I think it is pretty decent work.

Edit2: Couldn't find a better vid, the movie is rather unknown  :?
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Re: Best Ancient / Medieval Military History Movies: I'll start...
« Reply #194 on: February 10, 2012, 12:36:56 am »
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Well, I just wanted to say that I didn't know an Asian movie with such battle scenes. It's always whirling around some weird bamboo spear with soft shaft and hitting around enemies on their ears like it was a wet towel, and flying through the air with the help of invisible but obivous ropes. That's what I saw from Asian movies.  :?

Edit: another movie I think I can recommend to anyone who isn't too much into historic realism is The Messenger: Joan of Arc. It has a few bullshit elements, but all in all I think it is pretty decent work.

Edit2: Couldn't find a better vid, the movie is rather unknown  :?
Unless you're an asiaphobe (and then our conversation is pointless), you should probably do some more research or ask people around and watch some more asian war and alike movies. So far it seems that either you just watched house of flying daggers or a couple of those crazy kung-fu flicks from the previous century. You know, the ones where a 90 year old mr.Miyagi with a 2 meters long beard flies around =).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V33a3yQIc-8   nice movie with only a couple of fight scenes though, but the final duel is realistic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ht5y1rX2zk&feature=related not rly realistic, but still, no flying and well -choreographed overall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgPC74-Tde8 nothing realistic about this one, but it's still fun to watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLbSKfkpGBg i think this was Kurosawa's first movie in colours ,and by god did he use them well.Beautifull scenery, battle scenes and story . A classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvDS_nGDSAM&feature=related again beautiful use of scenery and colours,big battle scenes+some duels, somewhat cheesy music and not entirely realistic though, still a good one imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB5KuqUd1WM&feature=related another Kurosawa movie. Basically Shakespeare's Macbeth , japanese style. Not many fight/battle scenes, but i think this is a very underappreciated movie .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVjv9atS87k&feature=related The whole movie builds up to this scene. The famous 47 ronins story. Of course not much realistic and you can see them slashing the air, but it was the same in almost all the movies at that time anyway. Americans are making a movie about this story atm, with Keanu Reeves...lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOunibdB0YY&feature=related Kurosawa again. The movie that inspired the Magnificent Seven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoo5jyN5_uQ&feature=related Guess who ? Yep , Kurosawa again, probably my fave one of his work. Awesome movie with a very clever story.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sULTwrKipc&feature=related just for shits and giggles :D


Unfortunately i'm no expert when it comes to Korean/Chinese movies, although i do recall watching some very decent (and more or less realistic) military movies , i can't remember any names right now.