Poll

Increase cut-damage on Long Espada Eslanova from 27 to 29?

YES
28 (25%)
NO
84 (75%)

Total Members Voted: 112

Author Topic: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29  (Read 3662 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Siiem

  • Heretic
  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 611
  • Infamy: 129
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 10:47:35 pm »
0
It's probably not the sword that sucks...
But okay, 28/29 cut, so even Siiem can enjoy playing with it. :)

Nah 28/28 sounds fine. But it's not needed.

Offline Laufknoten

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 480
  • Infamy: 63
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Pawn
  • BOAT OF ANGER FLOATING ON THE SEA OF TEARS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Burg Krems
  • Game nicks: Felipe
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 11:07:31 pm »
0
Nah 28/28 sounds fine. But it's not needed.
Sorry, I ment 28 OR 29 cut. 28 cut and 28 pierce would be appropriate for the best sword and most expensive 1h. Incredible pierce and lenght (+good speed for such a long weapon) for medium cut damage and high upkeep.     
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Diomedes

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 200
  • Infamy: 51
  • cRPG Player
  • Cat
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Sootnik_Diomedes
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2011, 04:49:42 am »
-1
The LEE is the best 1h sword currently.  It's not head and shoulders over every other sword, as ought to be the case, but it's easily the most powerful if you have the money and know how to use it.  With high powerstrike or careful maneuvering the stab always hits.  With the exceptional length it can score well-aimed headshots and easily dismount or kill charging cavalry.  The low swing damage is its only real underwhelming feature, at face value, but in practice this is almost irrelevant.  On left-right swings the sword easily scores clean headshots - effectively increasing its average slash damage way above the given stat.

I'd use it, except that:
- it's expensive
- it's not very pretty compared to other swords
- it's a little boring to use
- folks know how dangerous you are and run away

Offline Bobthehero

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 515
  • Infamy: 195
  • cRPG Player
  • Grandmaster Ultimate God Of Swashbucklin'
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Bridgeburners
  • Game nicks: Bobthehero_Whals and I am totally not all the Not_Bobthehero alts ever.
  • IRC nick: Buff Swashbuckling
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 04:59:49 am »
0
Its pretty ):<
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The Narwhals, dedicated swashbuckler part of FCC


Stabbing is my speciality and one hitting people, my art

Offline Laufknoten

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 480
  • Infamy: 63
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Pawn
  • BOAT OF ANGER FLOATING ON THE SEA OF TEARS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Burg Krems
  • Game nicks: Felipe
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 08:40:17 pm »
-2
Sorry for reanimating this thread but there's something wrong with the LEE.

(click to show/hide)

Seriously, the top tier 1h sword is the cheapest item on the market, that's kinda weird IMO. Sure, those are probably noobs who don't know how to use it, but that still shows that something is wrong with the top 1h swords, when the price of a +1 elite scimitar for example is around ~350000...

Increasing the cut damage to 28 would make it slightly better and worth it's upkeep.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline John

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 41
  • Infamy: 8
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: None
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 11:11:41 pm »
0
Please don't buff the long espada.  I love mine, and don't want it to get nerfed. 

Offline hippy_with_a_scimi

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 55
  • Infamy: 9
  • cRPG Player
  • Balbasaur
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Balbaroth since the dawn of times
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2011, 05:41:53 pm »
0
Please don't buff the long espada.  I love mine, and don't want it to get nerfed.

you are too op with it dude , stop twisting that stab like a bawse!  :D


 i voted no obviously you havent seen thol using the espada , hes a wrecking machine  , i thought that LEE was a good weapon no more no less but in his hands its rape train

Offline Bobthehero

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 515
  • Infamy: 195
  • cRPG Player
  • Grandmaster Ultimate God Of Swashbucklin'
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Bridgeburners
  • Game nicks: Bobthehero_Whals and I am totally not all the Not_Bobthehero alts ever.
  • IRC nick: Buff Swashbuckling
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2011, 07:03:42 pm »
0
Yeah yeah LEE is op, nerf nerf nerf

(click to show/hide)
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The Narwhals, dedicated swashbuckler part of FCC


Stabbing is my speciality and one hitting people, my art

Offline Gorath

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 226
  • Infamy: 168
  • cRPG Player
  • Why the hell did I do anything other than ranged?
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: The threat of physical violence should be present in all things
  • IRC nick: Otherwise we get a swarm of faggot children like the majority of the cRPG/Internet population
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2011, 06:55:47 am »
0
I vote no.  The LEE is fine.  What does need some re-balancing however is the side sword.  It was overnerfed to the point of pointlessness.
Almost as expensive as the LEE
Same damage as the LEE (exactly)
Tradeoff:  +1 speed for -8 reach.

Seriously, there's none on the market because that's a shitty tradeoff.  +8 reach is so far far far superior to +1 speed, especially when the LEE is still 99 speed.  If anything the side sword should get the increase to cut damage in order to give it a reasonable tradeoff.  +1 cut +1 speed is a far better tradeoff to -8 reach.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

Offline Snoozer

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 91
  • Infamy: 58
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Faction:Knights Hospitaller
    • View Profile
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 07:44:11 am »
0
well i dont know about you guys.but my main problem with 1h is that it glances a lot(at least for me)
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Good Bye Lost Legion R.I.P Q_Q

Offline H4rdn3ssKill3r

  • Baron
  • ****
  • Renown: 107
  • Infamy: 46
  • cRPG Player
  • Crummy Wizard
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: naaaaaaaaaah
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2011, 10:47:31 pm »
0
longest 1h sword afaik.

You know if you started using the weapon in question or even reading it you would know that the LEE isn't the longest, the arabian cavalary sword is :/
I agree with this buff, maybe because I have a Balanced Long espeda, but I love the weapon and its Iberian so why the fuck not?
f8uasdlöadk blablablababa lbalba
^ Analogy of discussions on forums.

Offline Gorath

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 226
  • Infamy: 168
  • cRPG Player
  • Why the hell did I do anything other than ranged?
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: The threat of physical violence should be present in all things
  • IRC nick: Otherwise we get a swarm of faggot children like the majority of the cRPG/Internet population
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2011, 11:13:04 pm »
0
You know if you started using the weapon in question or even reading it you would know that the LEE isn't the longest, the arabian cavalary sword is :/
I agree with this buff, maybe because I have a Balanced Long espeda, but I love the weapon and its Iberian so why the fuck not?

Maybe because it's already so much better than most every other 1her?  How about we work on better internal balance within 1hers like alot of us have been asking for for a long time now.  Such as the imbalance issue between side sword and LEE as I posted, or the fact that all the "shortswords" suck ass.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

Offline Laufknoten

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 480
  • Infamy: 63
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Pawn
  • BOAT OF ANGER FLOATING ON THE SEA OF TEARS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Burg Krems
  • Game nicks: Felipe
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2011, 11:39:09 pm »
0
Maybe because it's already so much better than most every other 1her?  How about we work on better internal balance within 1hers like alot of us have been asking for for a long time now.  Such as the imbalance issue between side sword and LEE as I posted, or the fact that all the "shortswords" suck ass.
Well, when you take a look at the side sword, you see that it's not really ment to cut like a scimitar or an axe and the LEE looks way more "cutty" than the side sword does. So a cut increase to the side sword would make no sense at all. And btw, I'll have a MW one next gen and I'll be happy with it.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Gorath

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 226
  • Infamy: 168
  • cRPG Player
  • Why the hell did I do anything other than ranged?
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: The threat of physical violence should be present in all things
  • IRC nick: Otherwise we get a swarm of faggot children like the majority of the cRPG/Internet population
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 11:41:02 pm »
0
Well, when you take a look at the side sword, you see that it's not really ment to cut like a scimitar or an axe and the LEE looks way more "cutty" than the side sword does. So a cut increase to the side sword would make no sense at all. And btw, I'll have a MW one next gen and I'll be happy with it.

Fine, nerf LEE stab damage then.  The point is an imbalance internally.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

Offline John

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 41
  • Infamy: 8
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Faction: None
Re: [Stats] Long Espada Eslanova increase cut-damage from 27 to 29
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2011, 11:43:58 pm »
0
Side sword should be nerfed because its model is so damned attractive.  Totally unbalanced compared to other one handers.