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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2011, 03:23:41 pm »
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You can get HA 5, PD 4 at lvl 31 too if u use 4 riding skill and WM 7 or 8.
But... HA 5 will just end up in mass QQ.I got HA 4 with khirgit and everyone already QQs around..
Personally i think HA should be limited to 4.. to prevent future roundhousekick-everything on archer nerf.

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2011, 03:27:34 pm »
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WHAT? LIMITED TO 4?

If i want to have 10 riding 5 HA skill and 10 wm and i am sacrificing str and ps and hp for that, what am i doing wrong? If i can pwn people in some range even while at full speed, thats good for me. I dont have to ride close to oponent so he can slash at me. But see, i have only 7 str/42hp/0if/2ps.


And QQing while you dont have ranged... thats the WHOLE point of horse archery, that you dont come too close, but still wound/kill.

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2011, 03:30:34 pm »
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As i said, with your HC build ou are not able to use heavy armor + you will loose  rapidity (xbow take longer to reload than bow, just in case some of you are.. lets say.. retarded(just jking ;)) and i am posting a build that is for the long term, not a build you achieve in 1 day or so. But anyway, as I said again, with my build you are not unusefull at lvl 30, you are accurate, make goood dmg.
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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2011, 03:33:24 pm »
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sorry for the double post but... im am sorry but we are not in a battle field  couple of kilometers wide with enough space to go aroude the enemy without beeing lanced in the back by a enemy cavalry man or shot by some longbowman or sniper xbow. Armor is very important! well even if a horse archer or HC doesnt  come close to inf, it could still get  one shotted by other ranged if it has light armor.
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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2011, 01:57:04 am »
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Ok..well for me, help me build around these stats.

Lvl 30

Str 15
Agi 24

Archery 160?
2H *enough to handle on ground*

PS 4-5
Riding 4-5
HA 4-5
PD 5-6
WM 6-8

This should allow for decent chance on foot, but still be a pretty good HA....also need some weapon choices, currently use a Katana as a secondary.

I appreciate the concern, but I need a build circulating around this...it might not be for you, but its been working great for me...any ideas?

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2011, 07:45:57 am »
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If you want PS :

(6 skill points converted to 3 stat)
5 PS
Riding 4
PD 5
HA 4
WM 8

Do 12 str first, then 24 agi(lvl 28)
At lvl 31 you gonna be able to use strong bow.

I find this build pretty in the ass pleasurable.
Throw away the shitty katana and use bardiche.It costs 1650 gold, got 43 cut, not so bad range, you can kill stuff with it from horse, not sooo slow.Katana is just too expensive and not worth it.Get armor instead.

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2011, 08:10:08 pm »
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I've been on a break from HA for a bit but will retire tonight and make another HA,
this time I will try a less focused HA, last time was 15/24 pure HA

lvl 30
12str
24agi
4ps
4pd
4ha
8wm
6riding
3athletics (will be nice when dehorsed and on non HA maps)

gear will be
masterwork khergit
large sharp bodkins
heavy cataphract
durhizina lamellar
balanced elite scimitar
mail gloves
khergit boots

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2011, 08:38:20 pm »
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After I retire this next HA I am going to try a really experimental build

12str
30agi
5ha
4pd
111wm

2 extra skill points probobly in wm
I know it might suck but i want to see what 5HA is like this patch hopefully the accuracy wont be too bad with such low wpf

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2011, 08:41:17 pm »
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It will be just like xbows. And slightly slower than 15/24 version. Mighty Rache will outspam you with his/her [99% few times heirloomed] light xbow. Hes horse xbowman. hes my idol.

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2011, 09:09:40 pm »
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After I retire this next HA I am going to try a really experimental build

12str
30agi
5ha
4pd
111wm

2 extra skill points probobly in wm
I know it might suck but i want to see what 5HA is like this patch hopefully the accuracy wont be too bad with such low wpf

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lvl 31
Riding 3
PD 4
HA 5
WM 8 

Is also possible and it's not bad build.

It will be just like xbows. And slightly slower than 15/24 version. Mighty Rache will outspam you with his/her [99% few times heirloomed] light xbow. Hes horse xbowman. hes my idol.

? That would be something new to me lol..
The damage per time of HC and HA are almost same..but your hits must hit or you get pwned..we can live with some misses.

Btw an equal HA compared to Rache will still rip him apart ;)
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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2011, 09:59:51 pm »
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where does rache play?

xbows haven't given me trouble in the past as long as I dont miss much and can interupt attack animation, with my last char i had no trouble htting my target. and with heavy armor the light xbows dont do that much dmg. with light armor usually 2 hits.

I have seen some heavy horse xbows that are hard to take out (plated charger + plate armor)but all the ones i have come across havent been that good at shooting.

-ya it's alot easier to make good builds the higher you go but I always make them level 30 because you get to test a long time from 30-31 but at 31 i instantly retire
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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2011, 10:07:11 pm »
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Rache usually plays on eu 1, 2 and 4bt1 (battle servers)

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2011, 12:52:22 am »
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Ok..well for me, help me build around these stats.

Lvl 30

Str 15
Agi 24

Archery 160?
2H *enough to handle on ground*

PS 4-5
Riding 4-5
HA 4-5
PD 5-6
WM 6-8

This should allow for decent chance on foot, but still be a pretty good HA....also need some weapon choices, currently use a Katana as a secondary.

So let's say I went something like this...would I not need any 2H WPF because of how much PS I would have? I also like retiring right at lvl 31.

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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2011, 03:34:28 am »
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Hey Guys, I'll be retiring tomorrow!
The past 2 Generations, i've played straight archers.
This time around, i want to try a HA, because they simply rock!

Ill be trying this build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 18
Agility: 21


Riding: 7
Horse Archery: 3
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 7

Archery: 164

I know it's still a hybrid build, but would it still be viable?
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Re: Horse archery skill
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2011, 04:02:01 am »
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While I have not played an HA in a long time, this most likely is not the build I would go with.  Just because the Horse Archery skill is too low.  At HA of 3 your reticule on a moving horse would be too large.



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