[Cross-Clan EU Unit] The Cult of Mithras - Wednesdays at 18.30 UTC?

[Tristan]

The Cult of Mithras

A cross-clan unit of tactically minded cRPG players.

Cult of Mithras Background:

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The what?
The Cult of Mithras was a deity worshipped during the Germanic Iron Age. Origins seems to be the mideast (as many other ancient deities) but was most predominantly worshipped in the pre-christian Roman Empire. It was a secretive and elusive cult of warriors, with initiation ceremonies centering around the worship of the Bull. Only the warriors fit was accepted.
It is generally accepted that large parts of the Christian mythology borrows important parts from the Mihtras cult, such as ressurection.

In cRPG terms this could easily be translated into a group of the best players cross-clan. This is not my intention.
Instead I wish this to be a group of players tactically minded, reasonable of thought and disciplined. No trolls wanted.

The purpose?
To assemble a group of players who are able to develop strategies and tactics working in cRPG battles. Formation fighting, troop builds etc.

The why?
First and foremost because I am a sucker for tactics. Secondly because it hit me, when watching kingdom of heaving, how unorganised medieval battles are. Basically you line up, charge and duke it out whereas Roman tactics were far more subtle. Unit formation etc.

cRPG tactics have but under a few circumstances developed more subtle tactics than line up, charge, kill'em. Maybe that is what works, but why not try out other methods? And why not start with some of the generally accepted historical tactics.

An example of unit tactics was, when I realised the (former) shogunates paired a pikeman with a twohander equipped with both crushthrough and sword. While the pikeman assisted and prevented the crushthrough to get spammed, the 2hander made the kills. (I do not claim they invented the strategem, but it was with them I saw it at work first).
Other simpler tactics are the lljk "pike-buddies" for archers etc.

I'd like people to help me writing the Sun Tzu or Clausewitz of cRPG.

Kinngrimm Resume of Maneuvres so far:

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one more thing, we talked about several commands now, could you include these on the first page

roughly like

commands to take types of Formations:
- standard formation(double line formation of pairs, facing enemy directly, commaders with pike in back to protect against cav)
- half circle (flanc of the formation facing left and right ranged and cav)
- circle
- column

movement commands:
- advance(shields up, pressed forward button)
- half speed(shields up, 1 tab, 1 tap on forward button)
- full speed(shields down, pressed forward button)
- alpha take right flanc (agi build on outer site of the flancs, str build in center, the str shielder should be paired with the 2h chrushtrough guys as shocktrooper combo, the agi shielder on the flanc paired with either pikemen for more cav protection there or fast 2h)
- beta take left flanc
second line spread out(those who are paired with the guys in front of them)
spread out (all are taking individualy target, while staying together with their pairs)


alerts:
cav inc [direction] (get your polearms out)
inf inc [direction] (switch to 1h/shield, ...)
ranged inc [direction] (shields up and pairs get behind your designated shielder, who can cover you)


we should really describe clearly and in length every formation, so new folks who were not at the trainings yet get an image of it. I know the names we choose so far are more or less self explanatory, but we also noticed that at first it took us a little while to get into this. So please get even into more length if you feel it is unclear or needs more to be described as i already did there.

Alfa Squadron: White tunic over mail
Beta Squadron: Blue tunic over mail
Rear support and commander: Red tunic over mail.

[RamsesXXIIX]

Sounds pretty interesting, hope it can work out.

Aye, I am in.

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But as you are well aware of, I am also fully dedicated to the Fallen Brigade. If supporting this means I must abandon my current clan, I have to decline. Furthermore, I will not condone any actions to threaten or harm The Fallen Brigade in any form. That is my condition.

[Tristan]

But as you are well aware of, I am also fully dedicated to the Fallen Brigade. If supporting this means I must abandon my current clan, I have to decline. Furthermore, I will not condone any actions to threaten or harm The Fallen Brigade in any form. That is my condition.

Rest assured, this "unit" is not a clan, have no purpose in strategus and is in no way partial towards any faction. Only dedicated to tactics.

[Gisbert_of_Thuringia]

I think I might join and check out what you are doing there^^

[Captain_Georges]

Wether it is smashing friendly's faces for the betterment of others, or attempting to capture a hill crawling with charlie, I'm your man.

[Tristan]

First three people up. Nice.

George and Ramses could you spread the word to your respective clans?

[Tears of Destiny]

If I gather correctly, this is basically an organization dedicated to the promotion, exploration, and improvement of small unit tactics?

Best of luck with this, this sounds like it has great potential.

[Tristan]

If I gather correctly, this is basically an organization dedicated to the promotion, exploration, and improvement of small unit tactics?

If I only had your eloquence. Yes!

[Mustikki]

I'm in aswell. 

[Phazey]

Hell yeah! 

Sounds nice. Lets try it and see where it goes. I recommend getting all of us on some TS somewhere. You guys are ofcourse welcome on Merc ts but perhaps some other venue is better.

[kinngrimm]

i am in and all for trying out tactics.

Phaze no surprise

I suggest
Wednesdays on Eu_cRPG_Wolves perhaps Commodore manages at some time the cron job running so it would be Eu_cRPG_CoM

meeting on Merc ts, agreed

time about : 21:00 gmt+1

EDIT: no strategus politics there!

[Tristan]

There is a lot of practical matters to deal with.

1) Forum. We need a place where we can discuss what we are actually going to do the first day we meet so people have specced a char + equipment available. I have a forum running but it would require people to register there to use it. I'm not sure everyone is interested in that.
2) A ts server. I'm sure we can use one or all of the available (Nditions, Fallen, Wolves, Nords, Mercs etc.)

[Kophka]

This is very interesting, and I'm glad to see people thinking about tactics in this game. I have to admit, as a horseman, I have a hard time coming up with tactics on the fly in the cliffside villages that form 90% of the maps on the official servers, so it'll be interesting to see what you guys come up with in these situations.

If I can make a suggestion, I'd like to see you guys organize a "Formation Battle Sunday Event" like we used to see in Native (they may still do it, haven't checked in a while).

Borrow a server, load up a fairly level grassy plain, and let 2 teams try tactics out against each other. It would be a great opportunity for the public to see what it's all about. When you feel that people have a good grasp of what's required, you can move to progressively more challenging maps, like one side has a hill and the other doesn't, one side gets a river, then switch, then both teams have a hill, etc. all the way up to village assaults and defenses.

Just make a forum post announcing the Event, let people apply, and select team captains for each team. The team captains can make a roster, we can all meet up, PW lock the server, and see what tactics we can get away with in cRPG world.

If you guys do this, be sure to look me up. I play a light cavalry scout hurling javelins, or a heavy cavalry man who tosses jarids into the enemy line before smashing my armored horse in and laying about with my mace. 

[Tristan]

EDIT: no strategus politics there!

Indeed. Lots of clans are going to be gathered... keep the grudges at home.

[H4rdn3ssKill3r]

THE CARDINAL OF THE TEMPLOLS IS HERE!

God has trully blessed your unit!

(Yes I'm joining!)