Armor: Effectiveness vs Melee and Ranged

[RandomDude]

Funny,

I frequently end up eating 3 - 4 projectiles a round, 2- 4 hits in melee and still survive.

I can also perfectly recall a time, dying to 2 maybe 3 arrows shot ACROSS the map @ a 27/27 full IF build...

Wait till Paul fixes the random soak of armors....(thats whats sometimes causing shocking dmg effects)....and it will be perfect :-).


I am totally for balancing ranged out for 1 year....was always whining loud....

Weird I say this, but ranged seems balanced :-)

most ranged isnt too bad until you get pretty close in finding

[cmp]

If you don't have a shield maybe you should avoid getting close...

[Siiem]

If you don't have a shield maybe you should avoid getting close...

There are people like Hetman who can do some sort of wizardry and hit you even if you have your shield up... damn haxor. He is my nemesis!

[Leshma]

People forgot how strong ranged has been is past patches but because the majority of players is 2h or polearm.

This just shows how much you know about this mod.

Majority isn't 2H or polearms, but they kill the most. People like Phase and Chase have more kills per map than the rest of their team. It's not their fault that majority is less skilled. Players like them can score just as well using any other class...

And ranged wasn't strong a year ago, it was ridiculous.

And I can kill a tincan using mundane Rus bow and mundane arrows (that's 29 cut damage), it takes 4-5 shots but it's not that hard to hit someone using a bow...

[Vibe]

Majority isn't 2H or polearms, but they kill the most. People like Phase and Chase have more kills per map than the rest of their team. It's not their fault that majority is less skilled. Players like them can score just as well using any other class...

No, no they can't. I've seen Chase play on his shielder and his KD was completely human (no offense, Chase). Simply because 2h/pole have more damage and KDR is all about getting the last hit - more range and damage = more chance to get the last hit. Also a reason why long spear is a very good weapon for KDR.

[Gisbert_of_Thuringia]

I For example, crossbows kill 3.79% and maybe half of headshots being the most accurate ranged weapon, which brings us to maybe 7%. However, if number of players playing crossbowmen is around 2%, that leads to conclusion that crossbows are overpowered. Or, if there are 20% of players playing crossbow, that would mean that this weapon is seriously underpowered.

Hhmm..most people say it is rangefest out there and that half the server is archer/crossbow.

Looking at the numbers and at your sentence I think we can come to the conclusion that archery is reeeaaalllyyy underpowered. So why does everyone want a nerf?^^

conflict huh?

[Xant]

No, no they can't. I've seen Chase play on his shielder and his KD was completely human (no offense, Chase). Simply because 2h/pole have more damage and KDR is all about getting the last hit - more range and damage = more chance to get the last hit. Also a reason why long spear is a very good weapon for KDR.

Yes, but that doesn't mean they're not helping their team as much as before. And this is just in general.. most of the kills from someone with a really good score are peasants and other easy 1hit kills. It's just a race to who gets those free kills first, and the winners of that race are 2h and cavalry.

However, taking those kills isn't exactly helping the team..

[Corwin]

Hhmm..most people say it is rangefest out there and that half the server is archer/crossbow.

Looking at the numbers and at your sentence I think we can come to the conclusion that archery is reeeaaalllyyy underpowered. So why does everyone want a nerf?^^

conflict huh?

Statistics is like a bikini, shows everything but the important parts.  And we don't even have whole statistics here, only bits and peaces.

[Siiem]

However, taking those kills isn't exactly helping the team..

Yeah, you would know!

[Xant]

Yeah, you would know!

Said the man who is dead scared of playing vs me in NTW.

[Siiem]

What you blabberin' bout?

[Xant]

What you blabberin' bout?

It's ok siiem, my tactical genius knows no bounds, anyone would be scared.

[Vibe]

Yes, but that doesn't mean they're not helping their team as much as before. And this is just in general.. most of the kills from someone with a really good score are peasants and other easy 1hit kills. It's just a race to who gets those free kills first, and the winners of that race are 2h and cavalry.

However, taking those kills isn't exactly helping the team..

True, but the talk was about score, so...

[RandomDude]

If you don't have a shield maybe you should avoid getting close...

maybe the dev team can make flamberges sheathable again (i promise i have some hidden compartment for it in my under garments)

then i'll use mah trusty board shield again, yay!

[cmp]

maybe the dev team can make flamberges sheathable again

Ok. Sheathable, 5 slots.