Horse Bumping

[BADPLAYERold]

So is this being removed or not?

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

I don't have too much trouble defeating a 2h stab as a lancer. It is important to not stab too early, and thus give your target time to position himself accordingly. It also helps to slow down suddenly while charging your quarry--it fucks em up.

Of course, being a lancer, I tend to completely avoid direct confrontation. It is much better to pad you k/d ration with dozens of afk, naked, xbow, noob, and archer kills.

[Tears of Destiny]

So is this being removed or not?

Yes.

[Fluffy_Muffin]

It simply not true that there isnt a way of doing it right. As if a 2h leads the tango which is bs,  as cav you can approach him whatever way or angle you please and beat him with a bit of skill as described before with the lance range.  2h is not the one on the offensive in this situation and if he is you easily use it againts him.

[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

obviously people differ but I think if you asked cav would you charge an aware 2h in lolstab they would say 'no, if hes aware he can counter me'. And I think if you asked reasonably minded 2h's whether they could take a charging lancer even if he turned, they wouldnt think themselves screwed or helpless ;)

so we see here that the cav are indeed saying that an aware 2h isnt worth the risk :/ bar maybe for the very top few, who should tbh rightfully beat 2h's anyways. In fact 2h's shouldnt really be able to stand a chance vs a lancer imo, as a 2h your niche should be close combat specialists, being capable of ruining infantry but being weak to cavalry and archers. Clearly this is not how the devs see it and so be it

[Dezilagel]

How come then non-pike polearmers get screwed over even worse? And how come shielders are even worse then both? GK philosophy - all inf should be weak to cav.

Fakkin' bs.

[Overdriven]

How come then non-pike polearmers get screwed over even worse? And how come shielders are even worse then both? GK philosophy - all inf should be weak to cav.

Fakkin' bs.

Not at all. Anti-cav weapons should be strong against cav. But weak against inf. Non anti cav weapons should be weak against cav and at a serious disadvantage against cav but strong against melee. Whilst archers already do a good amount of damage to cav (if they are sensible enough to target them). And anything in between should be a mixture of both.

[Lorenzo_of_Iberia]

GK philosophy = keep picking up the kills off those constantly unaware, ill equipped infantry.

If you want a good anti cav weapon, the bamboo spear / light lance / long awlpike / any polearm above 175 length are all valid options if you cant cope with the non block long spear, and then any 150 spear with shield is quite fun (played on my hoplite character).

Pikers got screwed over because of there being loads of pressure for it from the NA, the long spear was a bit ridiculous in close quarters

Anyway Bumping is gone but soon to return, back on topic.

[Overdriven]

GK philosophy = keep picking up the kills off those constantly unaware, ill equipped infantry.

If you want a good anti cav weapon, the bamboo spear

Bamboo spear is actually pretty lethal now. That guy using them on EU1 when the patch first came out and before everyone joined was doing pretty good damage to cav. More people should use it I think.

[Aymeric]

one more thing on horse bumping:
i saw somewhere that you receive the damage you make, how does your personal armour affect the damage you receive? I mean with my heavy armor will i notice it? is it kind of pierce or something? tks in advance

[Cheesecake]

+1 +1 +1  + OVER 9000

Love this~!


horsebump slash =crushthrough every time basically

now you have to actually STEER the goddamn horse


ps.  Im one handed cav

[Cheesecake]

Bamboo spear is actually pretty lethal now. That guy using them on EU1 when the patch first came out and before everyone joined was doing pretty good damage to cav. More people should use it I think.

I as well as many others have been touting the bamboo spears effectiveness for a while now

I think even kesh has had a mw one for a while

and the str reqs on it was pretty low....havent checked to see if that got changed

[Momo]

Well, in most case this is correct, but you can reasonably expect any cav that managed to come close to you for some reason to have taken an arrow or a bolt.

Futhermore, I'd like to add that I can do this all day long as 2h. And if I'm not that confident, I just block down. Something pikemen can't do anymore trololo.

I wonder why are maul or poleaxe users still allowed to block. Those are more unwieldy than the puny 2,45 m longspears and 3m pikes we have.

It means that now, 1h cav already had like 0 range (meaning their only kill opportunities are unaware people), but additionaly, if they decide for some reason to attack an aware footman, the footman can recklessly attack while throwing himself under the horse because it means he is invulnerable to the rider. And that is broken. Moreover, For 1h cav, the simple slash without bump is extremely unreliable, your target can be unaware but move sideways for some reason, it will either result in you missing or bumping thus being interrupted.


When your 2h sword that protects you from cav, is the all around best duelling weapon and weights nearly nothing will cost 30k gold (horse + 1h wep, I forget the shield because I'm kind), we'll talk about EZ mode.

You know, I am not one of the lulsword users, I am using an mw shortened military scythe and that's far from EZ mode, so stopping a cav with it is challenging. You said that, the simple slash without bump is extremely unreliable, yes that's why cav have to learn aiming actually instead of enjoying the EZ mode bumbslash free kill.

[Cheesecake]

Oh look, an agility shielder who plays with cloth armour and an archer being in favour of this? WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

Im 1 handed cav and I support this as well


Your a lancer, and afaik a damn good one.  This will not affect you in the slightest.

[Gurnisson]

Bamboo Spear is decent. Long Lawlpike is great.