upcoming poll: What could be done about unreachable spots?

[highglandeur]

Sry mate but removing ladders was ruled out as an option in this thread.
We were looking for other options, so ladders exist, why do we end up with unreachable campers, because evryone drops the ladder asap cause of weight.
Any 2H could carry a 0 weight ladder just in case they probably won't use otherwise.
Many other options were proposed, the gods favored the one saying "provide us with limitless ladders at spawn", in their own way.

[Teeth]

More ladders will be more unreachable spots, try to place a ladder on a roof thats being camped, they destroy it instantly. The only thing all those ladders will lead to is more roofs being camped.

Removing ladders is the only option that doesn't have dozens of cons. I dont even understand the pros of ladders anyway, they just dont belong in battle in my opinion.

[Jordrok]

This is the kind of shit that just makes me lose all desire to play.  Someone call me when the game becomes fun again.

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[Vingnir the Wanderer]

What if :

Player ladders couldnt be broken, they could only be 'pushed over'

AND (maybe)

They were higher slot req, AND you had to carry all 40 feet of the damned thing until you used it?

   Try argueing with the ultra-realism.   


The only reason to argue I would think that someone doesnt wanna lose their 'pocket ladder'.  And 'weightless ladders in your shirt pocket' are um, among the lamest arcade-consession that this mod makes, for the sake of having player ladders I guess? Can they be reworked to act like how I said? I think it would be epic really.

[bonekuukkeli]

Dunno why they "must" be changed at all. Never had problem with roofcamping really and i have been playing for 8 gens now with various builds. At least in eu servers people have this fair play rule: no ladders no roof, or if you are last one you jump down.

If something has to be done, just make them unsheatable (like one above me mentioned, no pocket ladders = using other weapons while carrying ladders) and expensive enough.

Easiest fix would be official statement, no ladder no roof if you are last ones. And make it reason for kicks and bans if continued.

[Warcat]

Easiest fix would be official statement, no ladder no roof if you are last ones. And make it reason for kicks and bans if continued.

that's already the way it is, some people just don't like it that way.

[Gorath]

that's already the way it is, some people just don't like it that way.

Admins don't do anything about it.  Or there's not enough admins on.  Or both.  In fact there's been plenty of admins that have muted or told people to stfu when they mention the idiot fucktards camping a roof because they destroyed the ladder as soon as melee started to come up the ladder.

Relying on the adminship to handle the retarded nature and consequences of the stupid ladder system has failed, is failing and will probably continue to fail.

[Corrado_Decimo]

This really seems to be more an EU issue, never see archers camping unreachable spots and then destroying ladder in NA.  If a ladder gets destroyed by enemy and theya re last alive, anyone on the roof (melee or archers) jump down.  Maybe EU archers are more cowardly??

ahhh these honorful and brave north americans... i wish i could be NA to be cool like this.

we have the issue, we argue how to solve it. if you NA don't have it, just get your post counter elsewhere.

BTW, EU have something like 15 servers... admins couldn't admin em 24/7. you NA cool guys have 2 servers empty all the day but peak after dinner... so 3-4 admins are more than enough for your 100 players... with an admin in the servers most of the time, you never see people in glitch spots, mario bros wannabe jumping up the most improbable places, haystack lamers, etc etc...