Cav spawnrape issue

[Teeth]

I casually log in to EU 1. Filled to the brim with 120 players. I spawn. The first thing that happens is that I get bumped by an enemy horseman. As I get up I see 8 enemy horsemen charging me, luckily they missed me and bumped into eachother. I killed 2 horses and then one of their mates backlanced me. After my death I counted the enemy cavalry in direct vicinity of the spawn. There were 14, no joke, I counted 14.

I spawned at 6:26. At 6:20 there were 14 enemy horsemen at our spawn. I have had occasions that I died before even being able to move. My screen always freezes for a couple of seconds when I first join a server, I have been couced multiple times in those couple of seconds.

I think the enemy cav shouldn't be able to reach my spawn while my team is still spawning. So either the amount of time after the round starts in which people can still spawn needs to be reduced, or cav should get a delayed spawn.

[Tzar]

Thats pretty common cav strat.

Rush enemy spawn and kill afk´s to feed E penis then when finished take out solo targets and then go in and backstab everyone busy fighten.

[Teeth]

Thats pretty common cav strat.

Rush enemy spawn and kill afk´s to feed E penis then when finished take out solo targets and then go in and backstab everyone busy fighten.

I'm not talking about afk's, they should accept to be killed, but people that are actually spawning.

[Cepeshi]

Happening quite often as i have to download new maps, or just simply if i want to select different set of gear that i have on website, i spawn late and got raped by cav, it is frustrating, yes, so i just respecced to cav and try to do the same...

[Joxer]

Exactly why I have made it a habit of staying at the spawn untill all the team is spawned and then escorting the slow ones to the main force. If successfull that increases the change of the team winning. If enemy cav rushes the spawn and kill slow ones there they then will attack the main force from behind and that too is very bad.

[Chagan_Arslan]

Exactly why I have made it a habit of staying at the spawn untill all the team is spawned and then escorting the slow ones to the main force. If successfull that increases the change of the team winning. If enemy cav rushes the spawn and kill slow ones there they then will attack the main force from behind and that too is very bad.

you truly are a saint Joxer ;)

[Kafein]

Exactly why I have made it a habit of staying at the spawn untill all the team is spawned and then escorting the slow ones to the main force. If successfull that increases the change of the team winning. If enemy cav rushes the spawn and kill slow ones there they then will attack the main force from behind and that too is very bad.

This is what is called "dealing with it".

[Joxer]

you truly are a saint Joxer ;)

A saint who says cunt. A distant cousin to the Knight who says Ni

Ontopic: it works sometimes but many times I'm facing 3+ cav alone so if I manage dehorse one I'm good It's curious how rarely cav actually backs off when they see someone with a long pole at the spawn. As if killing spawners is just so tempting they're willing to risk it.

[Old_Sir_Agor]

yea i think , devs shoud make some barricades at spawm or some high hill. so cav cant get easy score!

[Overdriven]

When I play my inf alts I tend to expect this. If I spawn in late for whatever reason I'll either make it my first priority to get somewhere safe from cav, or take an anti-cav weapon. It's got to be expected, and it's fairly easy to deal with. I've rarely seen occasions however, where the cavalry is upon the spawn before the main group of inf has fully spawned. And if you stick with the main group in your normal round then it's fine.

[Wookimonsta]

lol
enemy is using an easily counterable technique, but we are to lazy to defend spawn, therefore maps should be designed so spawn is unreachable.
Actually on some maps the spawn can't be reached by cav.

[Teeth]

When I play my inf alts I tend to expect this. If I spawn in late for whatever reason I'll either make it my first priority to get somewhere safe from cav, or take an anti-cav weapon. It's got to be expected, and it's fairly easy to deal with. I've rarely seen occasions however, where the cavalry is upon the spawn before the main group of inf has fully spawned. And if you stick with the main group in your normal round then it's fine.

Although I promised myself to not pay attention to your posts again, I have to react, this is my thread.

It is not easy at all to deal with the spawnrape cav. Most maps have a centered village, with quite a walk until you reach any cover. When you spawn late and the spawnrape cav squad is upon you, you will have to walk 50+ meters with nothing than your own weapon to protect you from multiple cav opponents. One bumps you, the other lances, youre dead. You block one, the other lances, youre dead. You are virtually always dead, except on those rare occasions that friendly cav stop spawnraping the other team and help you out.

[Overdriven]

Although I promised myself to not pay attention to your posts again, I have to react, this is my thread.

It is not easy at all to deal with the spawnrape cav. Most maps have a centered village, with quite a walk until you reach any cover. When you spawn late and the spawnrape cav squad is upon you, you will have to walk 50+ meters with nothing than your own weapon to protect you from multiple cav opponents. One bumps you, the other lances, youre dead. You block one, the other lances, youre dead. You are virtually always dead, except on those rare occasions that friendly cav stop spawnraping the other team and help you out.

Meh that's why I spawn in with an anti-cav weapon and use whatever obstacles I can if I spawn late. Sometimes you get raped, sometimes they shy away from you and hell sometimes if you are good enough you can do some real damage to them. I play my inf alts regularly enough that I quite often spawn late if I've joined a round late or have been away from the comp a second and I have 0 issue with it.

Maybe though that's because I also enjoy shooting cav attacking spawns + attacking spawns myself. It's part of my main HA job. So I'm not bothered at all by it if it happens to me on foot because I do it myself. As would pretty much any cav given the chance.

I just think many anti cav players should put maybe 2 generations worth into a cav build. I played 2 gens as a foot archer. I have a shielder, 2h and longbowmen alt. If you play a mix of all builds then your understanding of things changes completely. I used to bitch about 2h but now I have no real issue with them. Cav can piss me off majorly when I'm on foot. But I never let it get to me because I know if I just switched to my HA, I'd be doing the same thing. It's the nature of the build and no matter how you change it, it always will be.

The only class I still think needs a bit of nerf is xbow because it's piss easy to shoot them still with 0 wpf. I do it with my HA on siege and can hit stuff easily. But otherwise I am now very happy with each class because I've played quite a few of them and understand where each is coming from.

The only way you can stop it is to turn spawns into fortresses of doom for cav. But then open spawns are often handy because they are the few areas that cav have space to run around in. Otherwise it's all fences and buildings.

[Teeth]

The most easy way to fix getting raped while you spawn is making the spawn window smaller. Please realise that I'm not talking about nerfing cav here in any way, I just don't think enemies should be able to reach the other team's spawn when people are still spawning.

[Overdriven]

The most easy way to fix getting raped while you spawn is making the spawn window smaller. Please realise that I'm not talking about nerfing cav here in any way, I just don't think enemies should be able to reach the other team's spawn when people are still spawning.

I know you're not. It was a general splurge of thought process from me.

Hmm well making the spawn window smaller would surely be a forced decision. If people know that they are spawning late, they will know they should spawn or not spawn and to expect cav or not. Forcing it would take that decision away and I see no reason to do so.