REPAIR COSTS ARE WAY TOO HIGH

[Dexxtaa]

Don't be such a little girl, I gain money in full plate.

*voted no*

[LordBerenger]

Here's the solution to all yer upkeep problems.

Get a fresh character Gen 1.
Level up to 20-25 and then right before you gain lvl 26, respec and keep doing this.

Because as Gen 1 you pay nothing in upkeep gold and thus u can use Tincan suit and plated charger all day long with no upkeep.

16/18 build is pretty fun and u can still be successful.
(16 Str being for u can use Black Armor / Milanese Plate etc...).

You pay nothing at all for upkeep. It's a perfect way to play tincan/heavy cav as.
Just like good old times Except gold gain is better and there's multi.

I expect chadz to nerf this next patch or so however (can't let people have fun ;/).

Again....

[Patricklus]

im not trying too use heavy armor im saying i cant even wear med armor an ride cav without massive repair costs. and you need med armor while riding cav too sustain arrow hits alone, like heraldic mail with tabard splinted greaves with spurs klappface helm, with your lance and a bec or long hafted blade only 2 decent polearms imo and horse is over 2-3k each round even if i played for a map with x5 for 5 rounds i would make 6250 a map, and in two rounds thats gone. thats not too high?i would start posting screens if i thought it would mean anything

[[ptx]]

That is somewhat heavy armor, especially when you are using a horse... I wouldn't be surprised about losing money with that gear.

[Overdriven]

im not trying too use heavy armor im saying i cant even wear med armor an ride cav without massive repair costs. and you need med armor while riding cav too sustain arrow hits alone, like heraldic mail with tabard splinted greaves with spurs klappface helm, with your lance and a bec or long hafted blade only 2 decent polearms imo and horse is over 2-3k each round even if i played for a map with x5 for 5 rounds i would make 6250 a map, and in two rounds thats gone. thats not too high?i would start posting screens if i thought it would mean anything

I often use lamellar (half the cost of the heraldic mail), that can take 3-4 bodkin arrows easily, 2 if the speed bonus is really against you but mostly it isn't. Crossbows not so good, but I find it is more than adequate, as do a lot of GK who use it, and you don't lose any money with it  I use steppe armour on less populated servers, but for EU 1 I always use lamellar due to the sheer number of stuff flying around. Khergit war helmet, leather gloves and nomad boots and you'll be fine. The helm you use is a bit pricey, the Khergit war helm is 5k less and provides plenty of protection.

Thing is, as cav your not supposed to take lots of hits. As long as you sustain 3-4 arrows you should be fine. If you get close enough to an enemy to be piked ect, then you would probably die due the the speed bonus regardless. And most cav don't get anywhere near that close, your job is to keep away and dive in when you see an opportunity. Not ride head first into the fight. The mistake many cav (myself included) make, is rushing into the fight to early and not waiting till your team is in melee with them.

[_JoG_]

Hmmm... Am I the only guy who notices the recent significant increase in the number on tincans not only on the NA battle, but also on the NA siege servers? When I actually try to find the melee guy in the worst armor there it appears to be +35-39 mail.

[Overdriven]

Hmm on EU 1 when it's around 80 players I often only see 2 tin cans a side max. It may be it's an NA thing?

[Glyph]

I often use lamellar (half the cost of the heraldic mail), that can take 3-4 bodkin arrows easily, 2 if the speed bonus is really against you but mostly it isn't. Crossbows not so good, but I find it is more than adequate, as do a lot of GK who use it, and you don't lose any money with it  I use steppe armour on less populated servers, but for EU 1 I always use lamellar due to the sheer number of stuff flying around. Khergit war helmet, leather gloves and nomad boots and you'll be fine. The helm you use is a bit pricey, the Khergit war helm is 5k less and provides plenty of protection.

Thing is, as cav your not supposed to take lots of hits. As long as you sustain 3-4 arrows you should be fine. If you get close enough to an enemy to be piked ect, then you would probably die due the the speed bonus regardless. And most cav don't get anywhere near that close, your job is to keep away and dive in when you see an opportunity. Not ride head first into the fight. The mistake many cav (myself included) make, is rushing into the fight to early and not waiting till your team is in melee with them.

you aren't completely wrong, but as 1handed cav(me) you do have to be able to take some hits, i know you play mostly as a HA, and with that class you don't have to have any armor really. i also use heavy boots, because i get hit in the feet a lot, i also have lemellar, which can take 3 hits before i get killed, i also use a destrier, because when you run into a wall or something, and you stop, and youre surrounded by 2-3 enemies, you want to get out alive, so they can usually strike 5 times or so, i can avoid 2 easely, but 3 still hit me and/or my horse, and if you have a courser or rouncey, or even an arab! you will never survive that situation. all the gear i have is chosen because of armor, my body armor, my horse, my foot armor even my head armor. yes, i know 52k is at the top of the
"making money-losing money" ladder, but it works best for me, i personally dislike the current upkeep system, because especially as cav, it can get you bankrupt in just a few hours. maybe it should be class based?

[Overdriven]

you aren't completely wrong, but as 1handed cav(me) you do have to be able to take some hits, i know you play mostly as a HA, and with that class you don't have to have any armor really. i also use heavy boots, because i get hit in the feet a lot, i also have lemellar, which can take 3 hits before i get killed, i also use a destrier, because when you run into a wall or something, and you stop, and youre surrounded by 2-3 enemies, you want to get out alive, so they can usually strike 5 times or so, i can avoid 2 easely, but 3 still hit me and/or my horse, and if you have a courser or rouncey, or even an arab! you will never survive that situation. all the gear i have is chosen because of armor, my body armor, my horse, my foot armor even my head armor. yes, i know 52k is at the top of the
"making money-losing money" ladder, but it works best for me, i personally dislike the current upkeep system, because especially as cav, it can get you bankrupt in just a few hours. maybe it should be class based?

Well I was talking from a lancer perspective as well. Most of GK use Lamellar, HA and Lancers. But fair enough then, that makes sense.

It probably should be class based to be fair. But not sure if they'd ever agree to that 

[Aleskander]

Bad idea.

Explain why?

[deathbringer521]

repair costs are just fine for me, why u cry?

[Glyph]

repair costs are just fine for me, why u cry?

cuz i'm cav

[deathbringer521]

cuz i'm cav

when a cav buys his first horse he has to sign for it in blood...
*,..,*

[Glyph]

when a cav buys his first horse he has to sign for it in blood...
*,..,*

ìndeed, not with gold

[Patricklus]

yea for any cav its too expensive