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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 07:50:38 pm »
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I'd say 18/21 for a pure foot shielder.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 53

    * Skills to attributes: 8
 
    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 6
     * Shield: 6
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 4

    * One Handed: 139
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

 I favor agility over strength for various reasons. But it mainly comes down to what type of player you are. If you can fend for yourself, like being everywhere at the same time, don't like running archers, like fighting multiple opponents alone, are too slow or "footworked" out too much, like the game when it's intense and requires to concentrate, then agi is for you.

This build can also be played as a support, using his shield defensively most of the time. But it will only shine in aggressive, small and swift action.

Allthough the build looks good, I doubt it's effectiveness in sieges. Mainly because you will get hit and with so few HP the first or second hit will kill you.

Yes, but look at his first post:

At Lv 31/32, he'll have points to put into IF. If you use less points for attiblutes, the build won't last for a high-lv char.

You are right, but since it takes me about 3 months to get to 31, I doubt I will ever get to 32. Even if I do, I can pick up riding as a filler.

21/15. Hitpoints ftw, screw althethics. About 21/18, a point of extra power strike is nice, but i'm guessing the extra hp (70 vs 56) trumps the extra killing power.

The 21/18 build looks more like a dueling build. I guess having 7 ps and 70 HP will do the trick.
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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 08:10:24 pm »
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I would go 21/15 and - of course - full IF. Especially if you prefer siege. You don't need a lot of athletics in such a narrow environment. The short weapons are also not a big problem there.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 08:37:37 pm »
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I would go 21/15 and - of course - full IF. Especially if you prefer siege. You don't need a lot of athletics in such a narrow environment. The short weapons are also not a big problem there.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2011, 09:32:29 pm »
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Ah, well the 18/21 build isn't designed for siege at all. I nearly don't play siege.

140 is enough wpf for any melee weapon. Skill points above that are better being placed in athletics.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2011, 10:31:37 pm »
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Ah, well the 18/21 build isn't designed for siege at all. I nearly don't play siege.

140 is enough wpf for any melee weapon. Skill points above that are better being placed in athletics.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2011, 02:59:57 pm »
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I've found that if you don't over-pursue this works quite well.   I threw some wpf into throwing and the 1 power throw because I had an extra point to throw in somewhere, but I still get the message that I don't have enough wpf for my difficulty 1 darts :( stupid hidden equations!

Oh, and your shield will break against a large group or axes.  Hope you know how to manual block!
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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2011, 03:03:38 pm »
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21/15 with 7PS and 7IF. You'll have so much hp you won't even have to raise shield vs archers anymore.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2011, 03:55:24 pm »
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Go for 21/15, then i am a bit more faster than you and can hit you better in the back.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2011, 06:08:46 pm »
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Please show some class and use a real sword, not ugly crap like scimitar or arabian cav sword. :D The Italian sword and the eslavonas are underused, use them and show that you have style.  :wink:
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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2011, 06:24:00 pm »
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18/18 for sure.

The difference from 5 shield to 6 shield is quite noticeable.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2011, 06:40:18 pm »
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18/18 for sure.

The difference from 5 shield to 6 shield is quite noticeable.

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Not it really isnt. I have 5 and unless i fight a axe user it doesnt break, even then i usually kill the axer before it breaks.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2011, 10:32:44 am »
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Go for 21/15, then i am a bit more faster than you and can hit you better in the back.

I'll bring an axe for that buckler of yours :P

Please show some class and use a real sword, not ugly crap like scimitar or arabian cav sword. :D The Italian sword and the eslavonas are underused, use them and show that you have style.  :wink:

Using a Langes Messer atm. I'm a templar, so I don't use eastern style equipment. I only use the eslavonas without a shield. They look silly with a shield.

18/18 for sure.

The difference from 5 shield to 6 shield is quite noticeable.

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If I would go for 18/18, it would be because of the 6 athletics, as I find the difference between 5 and 6 shield skill negligible. If my shield breaks with 5 shield skill (using knightly heater shield), it's either enemy #3 or more or I'm doing something wrong.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2011, 01:39:56 pm »
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Dont make the mistake of dropping IF especially when going 21 STR.

Getting hit by an arrow with 59 armour and 7 IF means you laugh it off and just going on steam rolling.

I play seige exactly the same way as you, front man and press hope for help and if none comes just keep going till you die.

Kills dont count but killing and delaying as many as you can means less to get to the flag :P

Oh man, that's so fun! Getting hit by an arrow, just shrugging it off, ignoring it completely  :D. Most of the time the archer just shoots someone else.

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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2011, 02:31:09 pm »
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24/15, 7ps to 8ps is an insane difference, combine that with low/med armor and a bitchy weapon like pick or italian sword and you'll be bi-winning..
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Re: 1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2011, 02:50:40 pm »
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Using a Langes Messer atm. I'm a templar, so I don't use eastern style equipment. I only use the eslavonas without a shield. They look silly with a shield.
It depends on the shield you want to use, they look good with the smaller cav shields imo. they never look silly  :mad:
What about the MW long/knightly arming sword then? I think they're the "knightliest" swords you can get and loomed they're really good.
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