1h/Shielder build. Can't decide! OH NOES!

[Spawny]

Allright, there are 2 contenders for being the best 1h infantry build. I've played them both, loved em both, but I can't decide which I'll take for my final gen.

So, either 18/18 or 21/15.

Gear:
Knightly heater
Langes messer/steel pick/anything short that hurts badly
Heraldic mail with tabard
Mail gauntlets
Kettle helmet
Mail chausses
long dagger for style points

WHICH SHOULD I TAKE!!??

[Torp]

i'd go with the 18/18 since i think athletics is very important as a shielder... especially with a short weapon, if you had a long weap, you could go for the 21/15, but to avoid getting outspammed or backpedal'd i'd take the 18/18

I would go with this build:

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Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 53
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Riding: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 6
One Handed: 156
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Ofc you can put the riding in IF instead for a pure inf shielder, but i would definitely put the spare points in riding since i love cav and it gives you more opportunities of new playstyles, which i think is more important than slightly more hp.

[Dezilagel]

I'd go with the best of 2 worlds, 21-18.

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Strength: 21
Agility: 18

Hit points: 56

Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 6
Athletics: 6
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 4

One Handed: 139
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

[Gurnisson]

18/18

[Phazey]

Hard choice. Small difference in the builds, though. Depends on play style and preference.

Do you like being able to chase archers, flank and fight against multiple opponents? 18 / 18.

Do you stick with your teammates a lot and play as a supporting shielder, pushing forward in the front line? Then you might like the extra hitpoints and perhaps the extra bit of powerstrike and go 21/15.

Personally, i also prefer the 18 / 18 builds because i feel that athletics gives you the most options, thus giving more 'fun' gameplay. I also tend to roam a lot, trying to flank and i often end up facing multiple opponents. In that case, the extra athletics trumps the extra hitpoints and powerstrike.

[VVarlord]

21 / 15

IF 7
PS 7
SHD 5
ATH 5
WPM 5

Its the perfect build for battle. If you want a dueling build with a shield you need much more wpf, if you want a build for battle then this is it.

I dont think im a good player but i think my build and the gear i use is the best for making my scores on battle much high than any shielder and mostly higher than alot of other classes.

Steel pick and huscarls is perfect if your not wanting looks and if you're worried about the range you dont need to chase them if they are running like a girl let them.

[Spawny]

Thanks for the replies so far.

I forgot to mention I'm the clans siege specialist. Last gen I got to level 31 with a whopping 3 kills and 6 deaths on my cRPG page.

I'm very much offensive minded, resulting in a lot of X vs me fights. I tend to push a bit too far into the enemy lines and combined with respawning defenders I get outnumbered a lot.

When playing defensive, I tend to defend a choke point until the end and I only run when the odds are 5+ vs me alone.

I've got lordly armour and reinforced gloves, leaving me with 59 body armour. So 6 or 7 IF can make a huge difference, but the 21/18 build without IF looks sexy.

Any additions with the new information?

[VVarlord]

Dont make the mistake of dropping IF especially when going 21 STR.

Getting hit by an arrow with 59 armour and 7 IF means you laugh it off and just going on steam rolling.

I play seige exactly the same way as you, front man and press hope for help and if none comes just keep going till you die.

Kills dont count but killing and delaying as many as you can means less to get to the flag

[Xscizorx]

If you like to take some hits (which you can with your armor), I'd go for the 21-15 build. It's personally my favorite, and it favors the more offensive play style. If you want be dueling/effective in 1v1; go for the 21-18 build or the 24-15 build. Both have no or low IF and favor turtle like play styles because they have no IF. If you choose a build with no IF, use a big shield and a short weapon, and play carefully. However, seeing as you like to be aggressive, I would go with the 21-15 build. It's fun on siege as well as effective in battle as a support/distraction role.


The Broad one handed axe is great, as well as the steel pick. However, my favorite 1h with the more strength heavy role is the regular espada eslavona thing. It's short, fast, and is better when use aggresively.
Whatever you choose, have fun with it.

[Phazey]

I'm the clans siege specialist.

Any additions with the new information?

21/15. Hitpoints ftw, screw althethics. About 21/18, a point of extra power strike is nice, but i'm guessing the extra hp (70 vs 56) trumps the extra killing power.

[Laufknoten]

18/18 if you use pierce/blunt weapons or swords with high thrust and 21/15 or anything with 7+ PS if you use axes or swords without thrust. I prefer the 18/18 build more, because of the 6 ath and 6 shield you get. It's a good build IMO and you can choose between more protection (IF) or some mounted action.

I use it this way atm, I've put some wpf in poles cause 150 wpf is enough for 1h and I already have a fast sword.

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Strength    18     Agility    18     Weapon proficiency Available points: 0 One Handed    150     Two Handed    1     Polearm    50     Archery    1     Crossbow    1     Throwing    1     Skills Available points: 0 Iron Flesh    5     Power Strike    6     Shield    6     Athletics    6     Riding    0 Horse Archery    0     Power Draw    0     Power Throw    0     Weapon Master    6

[Kafein]

I'd say 18/21 for a pure foot shielder.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 53

    * Skills to attributes: 8

    * Ironflesh: 0
    * Power Strike: 6
    * Shield: 6
    * Athletics: 7
    * Riding: 0
    * Horse Archery: 0
    * Power Draw: 0
    * Power Throw: 0
    * Weapon Master: 4

    * One Handed: 139
    * Two Handed: 1
    * Polearm: 1
    * Archery: 1
    * Crossbow: 1
    * Throwing: 1

I favor agility over strength for various reasons. But it mainly comes down to what type of player you are. If you can fend for yourself, like being everywhere at the same time, don't like running archers, like fighting multiple opponents alone, are too slow or "footworked" out too much, like the game when it's intense and requires to concentrate, then agi is for you.

This build can also be played as a support, using his shield defensively most of the time. But it will only shine in aggressive, small and swift action.

[VVarlord]

Why have 21 agil and not full ammount of wpf...

That is the worst thing iv seen recommended.

[Dezilagel]

21/15. Hitpoints ftw, screw althethics. About 21/18, a point of extra power strike is nice, but i'm guessing the extra hp (70 vs 56) trumps the extra killing power.

Yes, but look at his first post:

but I can't decide which I'll take for my final gen.

At Lv 31/32, he'll have points to put into IF. If you use less points for attiblutes, the build won't last for a high-lv char.

[rustyspoon]

Why have 21 agil and not full ammount of wpf...

That is the worst thing iv seen recommended.

Because unless you are wearing heavy armor or are a hybrid, you don't need more than 3 WM. Anything more than that is a waste. WM is the worst scaling skill in the game.