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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #60 on: August 25, 2011, 10:48:32 am »
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #61 on: August 25, 2011, 11:03:21 am »
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:words: trying to monetize the entire element of social engineering

This isn't fucking Europa Universalis III, get the fuck out. The social element of Strategus in relation to diplomacy is exactly what I just fucking said: social, labeling everything with pretty colors is and rating diplomatic relations in terms of numbers or magical terms is fucking stupid.

Take this specific instance, LLJK_Zealot was Neutral towards you and had no other course to think otherwise, now that LLJK_Zealot is seeing how much of a dumb ass you sound like, LLJK_Zealot now considers you Retarded.
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #62 on: August 25, 2011, 11:19:18 am »
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This isn't fucking Europa Universalis III, get the fuck out. The social element of Strategus in relation to diplomacy is exactly what I just fucking said: social, labeling everything with pretty colors is and rating diplomatic relations in terms of numbers or magical terms is fucking stupid.

Take this specific instance, LLJK_Zealot was Neutral towards you and had no other course to think otherwise, now that LLJK_Zealot is seeing how much of a dumb ass you sound like, LLJK_Zealot now considers you Retarded.

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #63 on: August 25, 2011, 01:46:31 pm »
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Cheers for taking the time to comment properly on my spreadsheet and thanks for the suggestions.  I'll start at the beginning and work my way through :D

First up, conditional formatting.  I can use this but its no quicker for me than copying and pasting, so in the spreadsheets current format, it doesn't seem worth it.  If the spreadsheet evolves then it might become useful.

Next, your categories.  Whilst I agree that there should be more categories I don't agree with labelling everybody as something.  Some things are meant to be private - such as if you mildly dislike someone but don't want them to know (yet  :wink:).  My spreadsheet is just for public knowledge and things that diplomats or factions leaders want to make publicly known.

Here's the list of alternative labels I put in an earlier post (but forgot to edit into the OP)
DP - Defensive pact.  An agreement to defend each other if attacked.
OP - Offensive pact.  An agreement to co-ordinate attacks against a common enemy and then share the spoils.
Allies - A combined defensive and offensive pact.
Vassal - A agreement to let a "Master" clan manage all diplomacy
NAP - An agreement not to attack each other
Enemies - A clan you dislike and will attack if near your lands but you are not actively fighting
War - A clan you are actively fighting

These are standings that people may want to make public and use instead of "War" and "Allies".  Its is still up to the diplomats/leaders though.

Your idea to incorporate this into startegus is great but not something I would have the first idea of how to do.  If doing this then I would agree to your list of possible relations, however faction leaders would need to be able to choose what is made public, and what is only visible to faction members.  The only stances that I would always make completely public are Ally and War.  For instance you might not always want the person you are "Unsure" about to know you are unsure about them.

Finally, I agree that 2 factions may see each other in different ways, but until I can get more diplomats coming in here to give me updates (or requesting editorial rights so they can edit themselves) then I am forced to fill in gaps myself using guess work. 
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #64 on: August 25, 2011, 04:31:58 pm »
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I would like editorial rights for LLJK.
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #65 on: August 25, 2011, 05:24:48 pm »
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I would like editorial rights for LLJK.

I think perhaps a seperate sheet just for LLJK might be a better idea.  You seem to have more internal factions than Strategus Clans  :shock:  :mrgreen:

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2011, 06:43:27 pm »
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I think perhaps a seperate sheet just for LLJK might be a better idea.  You seem to have more internal factions than Strategus Clans  :shock:  :mrgreen:

This would be acceptable.
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2011, 07:06:07 pm »
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LLJK's Council of 13 has been disbanded by the one true Goon.  The clan is now led entirely by Goatee, all hail the glorious leader.

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2011, 07:51:22 pm »
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LLJK's Council of 13 has been disbanded by the one true Goon.  The clan is now led entirely by Goatee, all hail the glorious leader.
Lies! The Idiot Seer Goatee rules nothing!

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #69 on: August 25, 2011, 10:36:56 pm »
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VIVA PRESIDENTÉ GILDISS! VIVA LA REPUBLICA DEL GOON! VIVA!

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #70 on: August 25, 2011, 10:47:27 pm »
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I'm personally against seeing my pictures and statues in the streets... But it's what the people want.
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #71 on: August 25, 2011, 11:04:02 pm »
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Chaos is NA and currently owns three territories.

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #72 on: August 25, 2011, 11:04:31 pm »
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Rejoice! The pathetic "Republica del Goon", tools of the demon Shogunate, has fallen! The self-proclaimed "Presidenté", the traitor Gildiss, has been led away in chains!

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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2011, 04:57:08 am »
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Re: Startegus Diplomatic Relations?
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2011, 01:11:37 pm »
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Chaos is NA and currently owns three territories.

We also have Non-Aggression Pacts with Blackrose and RuConquista.

Which 3?  I'm trying to work out who i've attributed them to at the moment, but the auto map isn't working