Assassin Dagger (One thrust One kill)

[huscarl_johnson]

This isn't TF2 and you're not a spy.

[Camaris]

Im totally for that idea.... can we make that weapon throwing?

[Darkkarma]

Additional use:

When someone knock you down with a maul-like weapon, weapon automaticly changes to this dagger with 200pierce boast for 2 seconds. If you can thrust you survive unless you die.

You probably even lost thomek after that one

[weight]

YES a lolstab dagger should totally be added. 

[Roran Hawkins]

NO, because


-Everyone would use them
-We would see a lot of whine from the people not using them
-people taking 4 to ensure always having a 1-hitkill ready
-can you imagine a tiny little dagger killing a charger in 1 hit? or a solid wooden gate?
-What would become of strategus?
-BOOYAAA I HAVE A DAGGER I KILL U *naked dude with dagger 1-hits oversized2h spammer tincan*
-can you imagine a tiny little dagger destroying a steel shield in one hit? *scratch* *CRUMBLEBREAKEXPLODE* OH NOES!
-The list goes on and on

If you want daggers that onehit people, go play assassin's creed.

[zagibu]

Maybe dagger thrusts to the back should get a 5% chance of instant kill, but not more.

[ThePoopy]

SPYCHECK!

[Balton]

Rather than this, whenever you hit someone in the back it should be instant knockdown with any weapon. It's kind of unrealistic when you sneak up on someone lightly armored, hit him, and he is still alive. Besides, IRL if you got hit from behind with anything, you would be on the ground.

[Thomek]

NO, because


-Everyone would use them
-We would see a lot of whine from the people not using them
-people taking 4 to ensure always having a 1-hitkill ready
-can you imagine a tiny little dagger killing a charger in 1 hit? or a solid wooden gate?
-What would become of strategus?
-BOOYAAA I HAVE A DAGGER I KILL U *naked dude with dagger 1-hits oversized2h spammer tincan*
-can you imagine a tiny little dagger destroying a steel shield in one hit? *scratch* *CRUMBLEBREAKEXPLODE* OH NOES!
-The list goes on and on

If you want daggers that onehit people, go play assassin's creed.

I think we are imagining different things here:

- Everyone that have free slots  and found them cost-effective would use them
- Don't think they should be 1shot only. Multiple use FTW!
- They would be so slow and not powerful enough to kill chargers in 1 kill. Of course they must have a certain damage.. Just enough to 1 shot the average archer with a well placed hit to the head.
- Strategus?? Good luck in sneaking up behind an archer there
- Not possible, the dagger shoulnd't have enough damage potential, range or speed, to make that a very likely hit anyway.
- A dagger that you can't block with against a steel shield user. Again, I think we are imagining different things here.

Let me suggest some stats and compare it to the dagger we have now:

Long Dagger   
Cost: 300   
weight 0.25
requirement 0
spd rtng 112
weapon length 47
swing damage 23, cut
thrust damage 25 pierce

New Backstabbing Dagger
Cost: 3500
weight 0.25
requirement 0
spd rtng 60
weapon length 18
swing damage NA
thrust damage 36 pierce

Just for reference, would you not rather bring this?

Awlpike   
cost 4532   
weight 2
requirement 8
spd rtng 92
weapon length 165
swing damage 17, blunt
thrust damage 33 pierce
Can't use on horseback
Penalty with Shield (also range bonus with shield however)

The damage potential of the dagger can be argued by the accuracy that you can wield it with. The speed by the time it takes to find a crack in someones armor.

Sure it will be a gimmick weapon for very specific situations, but I think it would be both FUN and realistic. (somehow)

Why are you so negative?

[Siiem]

This is complete bullshit.

[Thomek]

lolwut?

Why Siiem?

If anyone is able to use a wep they can't block with that has 60 speed and 18 range successfully in combat.. Well congrats. It won't happen, and if so, well deserved.

[EponiCo]

Since armor is lighter normal long dagger should be able to 1 hit kill many a standing person with strong character and good aiming.
If not at least damage enough so 1 or 2 slashes finish him. Don't know, try it on the duel server.
A onehanded guaranteed oneshot weapon ... well, I just think of the guy who'd always have the huscarl shield up when you faced him and the hammer when you looked away.

edit: A dagger with lower speed (normal 1h speed) and higher damage wouldn't hurt though.

[Death_Dealer]

aiming sounds better than a speacial dagger for assasins i think. a "slice throat" think can be added like "head shot" of the missilers, if u are behind someone u can easily aim his neck it should work with all sharp edged weapons of course in a face to face fight it can happen too. if his neck is not protected by a metal armor. a bevor for example.

[bruce]

But archers always die with one hit to the head with just about any weapon unless you're a agiwhore.