Dedicated Crossbowmen - where have they gone?

[Sir_Ironlake]

I have an xbow alt that has ~130 wpf in xbow and ~70 in 1hander. And Im having fun, but admittidley most of my well doing is because of my melee skills not the xbowing.

Frankly, the xbow is too weak and takes 2-5 shoots to kill, yr avrg healthy medium armored person. Thats just too much. A sniper xbow *might* kill in 2 hits, but only on light armor. So either you shoot a few peasnts for kills or maybe 1 enemy. The slow reload means you can average about 5 fired bolts a round. So even if you hit 100% (which is kinda asking too much) you can hardly kill much.

[Jacko]

Yeah.. That's kind of the problem right now with xbows. My main is 79 pole and 140 xbow, sniper with steel bolts, and it's not unusual I hit some guy with no clothes in the chest and he survives. I assume he's fairly high lvl with some IF, but still. Anyone with a loomed fully loomed xbow experiencing this as well?

[Siiem]

Yeah.. That's kind of the problem right now with xbows. My main is 79 pole and 140 xbow, sniper with steel bolts, and it's not unusual I hit some guy with no clothes in the chest and he survives. I assume he's fairly high lvl with some IF, but still. Anyone with a loomed fully loomed xbow experiencing this as well?

Too be fair, thats not uncommon with any weapon now. However even with armour xbows and throwing seems to be the only weapons that take more then 60% hp in one hit.

[Manabalu]

I have a masterwork sniper (87p+8p) and usally don't have that problem. Nakeds are always onehit kills, light armor too, if he is not too far away.
All in all I like to be a crossbowmen now. The good crossbows are too expensive as side weapons and the damge of the higher ones is alright again.

[Manabalu]

Too be fair, thats not uncommon with any weapon now. However even with armour xbows and throwing seems to be the only weapons that take more then 60% hp in one hit.

The problem with higher xBows is: You just have one shot and it is really disappointing if that shot can't kill a naked, like before the last patch.
Anyway a dedicated melee can easily onehit a naked with his flamberge, thats the price class we are talking about...

[MountedRhader]

Love your avatar, Gnjus! 

I might try X-bows in a lil' bit after 4 mil xp to retire.

[Paul]

One thing you have to keep in mind is that damaging an opposing player helps winning the round. You don't have to get the kill do be rewarded. So instead of shooting nakeds - as satisfying that is - going for armored targets as a crossbowman is recommended. If possible, leave the unprotected foes for the archers and focus on the heavy metal with a siege/heavy crossbow.

[Radix]

I am playing 131 wpf xbow and 101 1h+ norman shield. I use heavy crossbow and actualy never 1hit kill like before, what forced me to aim higher for head what means more misses. If I have a good day, and map is xbowman friendly I can get to the top 3 players, but it requires a lot of effort. I have a feeling that xbow dmg is to low, it even happens for naked guy to survive a close shoot which is totally unfair, cose it is a crossbow and the power is generated from the steel prod.... it actualy should go trough a naked guy and stick in a guy behind him. I feel that xbow is the weakest ranged weapon which is unrealistic but good for game balance I guess. Tips for xbowmans to survive are:

- invest a fair amount of wpf in melee

- use heavier armors u dont need mobility like archers

- always look for cover - xbowman is nothing in open field

- never go for 1v1 fight with archer unless u have a cover

- look around carefully and search for archers that dont move while shooting and snipe them

-if u spot a plate user: aim for him, xbow is very good for damaging plate users what is benefitial to the team

- use  corners of the  houses - jump out, shoot in the group of enemies, hide again to reload - this is a speciality of xbowmans in my opinions, or was cose throwers are taking advantage in that kind of fight

[Siiem]

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I am playing 131 wpf xbow and 101 1h+ norman shield. I use heavy crossbow and actualy never 1hit kill like before, what forced me to aim higher for head what means more misses. If I have a good day, and map is xbowman friendly I can get to the top 3 players, but it requires a lot of effort. I have a feeling that xbow dmg is to low, it even happens for naked guy to survive a close shoot which is totally unfair, cose it is a crossbow and the power is generated from the steel prod.... it actualy should go trough a naked guy and stick in a guy behind him. I feel that xbow is the weakest ranged weapon which is unrealistic but good for game balance I guess. Tips for xbowmans to survive are:

- invest a fair amount of wpf in melee

- use heavier armors u dont need mobility like archers

- always look for cover - xbowman is nothing in open field

- never go for 1v1 fight with archer unless u have a cover

- look around carefully and search for archers that dont move while shooting and snipe them

-if u spot a plate user: aim for him, xbow is very good for damaging plate users what is benefitial to the team

- use  corners of the  houses - jump out, shoot in the group of enemies, hide again to reload - this is a speciality of xbowmans in my opinions, or was cose throwers are taking advantage in that kind of fight

You just hit the top retard list. You must feel honoured.

[Jacko]

Priority targets, from biggest threat to the least are: Archers, crossbowmen, cavalry, Pole/ 2 handers, shielders.
When I aim and shoot, I have circa 1-5 sec to fire my bolt and get the hell out of dodge. Otherwise, some bugger just like me is gonna pin me.

But the absolute biggest reason to shoot other ranged are:

They are standing still.

Melee move erratic, and when the reloading is as long as it is, I want to make that shot count. Why miss a melee when you can kill an archer?
I love shooting 2-handers and shielders, especially when they have lots of armour and are chopping up my team (I always target my fellow mercs). In most cases it's better to "safe" the shot then to risk it.

[justme]

everyone is dodging..

[Jacko]

Solution: Ban dodging.

justme: what are you talking about? Of course people dodge, but RANGED stand still when firing.

[Gorath]

One thing you have to keep in mind is that damaging an opposing player helps winning the round. You don't have to get the kill do be rewarded.

As long as there is a scoreboard in the game that keeps track of your KDR and not damage dealt, then your statement will be innacurate.  Sad, but true.

[Siiem]

I think the solution here is my "Gravity" Thread.

[Rumblood]

Too be fair, thats not uncommon with any weapon now. However even with armour xbows and throwing seems to be the only weapons that take more then 60% hp in one hit.

Huh? I get one-shotted everytime with a xbow. He's got that one chance though. If he misses, he wont get to reload.