Regardless of subject we're discussing here (mostly whine from crappy cavs, I bet Leed or Kerrigan don't give a damn about greatswords) you seriously need to do something about cavalry. Even a average player on horse can dominate on almost every map and that is not right. Maybe it's time to slow down horses significantly, what do you think about that? Also why for the love of god you increased bump damage?
2H vs 1H vs Polearms right now is pretty much balanced, we have much more serious balance issues. Archers are slightly overnerfed, HAs are just slightly annoying, nothing more. I wear 20 armor on average and it took Belmont 4 arrows to get me to 20% HP...
And no, I won't make a new thread cause this is one of few threads where you actually posted.
You've balanced infantry very well and I don't really see a point of this discussion but other classes are totally unbalanced. Couched lance is favorite way of killing for most cavs since most of them are noobs. It's like sniper on horse pre upkeep patch when I would ride close to enemy spawn, shoot in crowd and get a guaranteed free kill EVERY TIME. Couched lancing is the same deal these days, some noob who can't hit anything with heavy lance is killing skilled people on spawn just because they are part of the crowd and can't maneuver.
Please balance cavs and don't listen to their whining. Cavs who whine suck, those who don't suck hate the 40 percent angle for lance because it's very limiting and makes playing cav a lot more boring. Remove bumping, give lancers their freedom back and make it like it's in native. Yes you're smart but don't think you're much smarted than Warband devs. Native is really balanced compared to what we have now in c-rpg, thanks to you guys focusing only on balancing infantry classes...
Have you watched Leed and Kerrigan? They don't give a crap for several reasons:
1. They rarely engage 2h from the front. Leed and Kerri are very very good at picking exactly where and when to strike to get the kill. That's why they get so many.
2. They are very very quick lancers on very quick horses. So even head on against a 2h, kerri and leed will have hit you before you would have even move your mouse for the lolstab. But then they've got everything heirloomed and are dedicated in their class.
Horses are fine. The only players that consistantly dominate are the ones you named above, or Torben, Jaboh, Chagan and a couple of others. All people who are dedicated cav and play it day in day out. So they will be good even if you slow a horse down. All other players tend to stay in the mid-range scores...where they should be.
Cavs who whine suck?
The same could be said about infantry...
Native is balanced? Native cav is awful and very OP lol. It's one of the reasons I came to crpg because it's a lot more balanced here.
If you can't jump out the way of a couched lance, then you're just plain retarded and it's your own fault. I know when I get couched, it's because I was to slow and my reactions were at fault...not because the cav is OP. Couching into a group is easy...but nothing you will do can change that short of entirely removing the couching ability and you very likely to get piked ect if you couch into a group. Couching into a mixed group is also risky because you're just as likely to couch a friendly.
Fact is, if you can take a cav out with most weapons, then you aren't very good. Because most average cav are easy to kill. The ones I named above + a few others would be good regardless of what you did to horses. Plus most of them know how to handle themselves as inf, so even if you made them do that, they would still own you.
Cav is fine. Now let's get this thread back on track.