Enough with the Teamstacking

[Beothed]

Why is it that pubbers get punished when clan are free to roll on at 5x? Every night I've been playing this game and steadily getting better at it, but getting dumped to the crap team every time it balances is gay as hell. I just spent 6 rounds getting teamswitched every single time? How is that acceptable?

The first round you get in and get a good multi while helping your team win and guess what, you get switched to the team that has half the people running around in robes to get rolled for four rounds in a row, so the rich get richer and the new folks suck eggs.

The player skill in this game makes way more difference then numbers or gear. Every time I play it stacks most of the vets on one team and all the others on the other. It's getting really old.

Can we make it so it takes the vets and the new guys and splits them between the teams?

It's bad enough for new folks learning this mod without getting dumped to team suck every round because your not wearing the right banner.

OK, I'm going to calm down now. 

[DrTaco]

Without banner balance, clans would bitch because they can't sit on x5 all day long. Sadly, there is no real way to balance this out.

[Dehitay]

Wow, another one of these stupid threads. You have 2 options. Just join a clan if they're that much of an advantage (and they are, but because of teamwork, not skill hording) or go play on the 50 man ATS server that doesn't have banner balance. In this game, skill may be more important than equipment and grinding, but teamwork is even more important than that. Consequently, it's going to lean in favor of letting clans use teamwork. If you can't live with it, go on a server without banner balance and enjoy the popularity of servers without banner balance.

[Baggy]

Why is it that pubbers get punished when clan are free to roll on at 5x? Every night I've been playing this game and steadily getting better at it, but getting dumped to the crap team every time it balances is gay as hell. I just spent 6 rounds getting teamswitched every single time? How is that acceptable?

The first round you get in and get a good multi while helping your team win and guess what, you get switched to the team that has half the people running around in robes to get rolled for four rounds in a row, so the rich get richer and the new folks suck eggs.

The player skill in this game makes way more difference then numbers or gear. Every time I play it stacks most of the vets on one team and all the others on the other. It's getting really old.

Can we make it so it takes the vets and the new guys and splits them between the teams?

It's bad enough for new folks learning this mod without getting dumped to team suck every round because your not wearing the right banner.

OK, I'm going to calm down now. 

Join a clan.

[Tears of Destiny]

Join a clan, or play on the 50 man or another server that has banner balance off.
Easy solutions.

[Xant]

Why join a clan when you can just use their banner instead?

[Baggy]

Why join a clan when you can just use their banner instead?

pPl that use the Greys banner when theyre rolling siege is what came to mind.

[Beothed]

Join a clan.

Thank You, I think I will.

[Mihilist]

I like being on the "bad" team...it's just that much more funny when you win.

[Peasant_Woman]

Being in a clan helps a lot, banner balance does tend to lead to clan + randoms vs clan + randoms which end up being pretty fun fights. Occasioanlly though it will screw up and do clan + clan vs all the randoms. Basically teamwork > numbers, skill, weapon advantages/disadvantages and terrain advantages combined.

[IceManX]

Remove the Upkeep so there is no MUST HAVE to win every round.
The way of losing a multi is not so harsh then.

Expect for the leveling it takes just a little longer.

[Digglez]

Remove the Upkeep so there is no MUST HAVE to win every round.
The way of losing a multi is not so harsh then.

Expect for the leveling it takes just a little longer.

failure is a good teacher, too bad you're a bad student

[rustyspoon]

Remove the Upkeep so there is no MUST HAVE to win every round.
The way of losing a multi is not so harsh then.

Expect for the leveling it takes just a little longer.

Upkeep is fine now. Well, it's probably still a bit too lenient for high-end stuff. Especially with valour, you can get shit-tons of gold nowadays. I know I am.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

I think the issue here is autobalance.

I don't see the problem, though. We need to keep the current autobalance system because everybody needs to win, and for one team to beat the other more than once or twice in a row would be unfair, becausse somebody would be loosing. Gotta keep everything nice and even, so everybody wins, all the time; and no one looses.

Besides, I enjoy being switched to the loosing team and promptly loosing my multiplier. As a cavalry player, upkeep isn't an issue or anything.

Gotta keep the balance!

[Baggy]

Idn why instead of introducking upkeep chadz didnt just make 2 servers one for lvls 30 and over and one for under 30.