Make lances 1slot

[Wookimonsta]

The lances take up two slots because its so huge, but it is unsheathable and due to its extremely slow speed, on foot it makes a poor weapon even against cav. When i unhorse lancers, its easy to ride in and stab em when they thrust their lance once as it takes forever to be able to thrust again.
Since its only the lances that get this, and its a useless weapon, you won't have archers using it all the time.

[[ptx]]

I'd rather they became sheathable.

[Chapman]

No.

[Wookimonsta]

sheathable is silly. it would just mean people switching out lance and 1h on the horse all the time. The unsheathable means cav has to plan a little better. If you drop your lance, you have to go find it.

2slots just limits the 2h/lancers

[Spawny]

It's perfectly possible to bring a heavy lance and a GLA if you want.

The real problem lies with the fact you want to bring a shield too.
You just have to choose: lance+big polearm or lance/shield+tiny polearm.

[Torben]

It's perfectly possible to bring a heavy lance and a GLA if you want.

The real problem lies with the fact you want to bring a shield too.
You just have to choose: lance+big polearm or lance/shield+tiny polearm.

i think he knows that... 

[ArchonAlarion]

All unsheathable weapons should be 1 slot and more polearms should be unsheathable. This would prevent pike/lance+bec de corbin and such combinations. Polearm users would either pick a single unsheathable weapon or an unsheathable alongside a hybrid combination. Both styles have their strengths and weaknesses.

Is lance, shield, and bastard weapon that unrealistic/unbalanced? Seems to me like a lance, shield, and longish one handed weapon (that can be used two handed once dehorsed) is the classic knightly style and should be in the game.

[Wookimonsta]

All unsheathable weapons should be 1 slot and more polearms should be unsheathable. This would prevent pike/lance+bec de corbin and such combinations. Polearm users would either pick a single unsheathable weapon or an unsheathable alongside a hybrid combination. Both styles have their strengths and weaknesses.

Is lance, shield, and bastard weapon that unrealistic/unbalanced? Seems to me like a lance, shield, and longish one handed weapon (that can be used two handed once dehorsed) is the classic knightly style and should be in the game.

i made that suggestion, but people just went OMG ARCHER WILL LEAVE PIKES LYING AROUND!!!!
i thought that was a good thing, but most didnt. so i suggested just lances instead.

[ArchonAlarion]

i made that suggestion, but people just went OMG ARCHER WILL LEAVE PIKES LYING AROUND!!!!
i thought that was a good thing, but most didnt. so i suggested just lances instead.

Most archers are not going to take polearms at all if they are unsheathable and 1 slot. Its just a waste of gold, stats, and time. If they do choose to, they'll have to camp most times. Horse archers will be able to take more arrows with their lance, or a shield, or a hafted blade, but will need to drop the weapon to use their bow. Its possible, but distracting.

I tried making a not too expensive archer/polearm and crossbowman/polearm build with the unsheathable, 1 slot in mind.

Archer
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 6
Polearm: 107
Archery: 130

Hafted Blade - 5363
Horn bow - 7896
2 sets of Barbed arrows - 1640*2
Magyar helmet - 1219
Padded armor - 1272
Leather boots - 345
Leather gloves - 289
Total - 19610

Crossbowman
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 18
Agility: 21
Hit points: 63
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 5
Horse Archery: 0
Weapon Master: 7
Polearm: 110
Crossbow: 140

crossbow - 10474
2 stacks of bolts - 2563*2
awlpike - 8251
padded jack - 1098
Kettle hat - 1936
Ankle boots - 153
Leather gloves - 289
total - 22587


Are these builds unfair? I'm not much of a ranged char player myself, so perhaps there are more op builds that can be made, share if you can think of them.

[Seawied]

I don't think it would be bad for gamebalance if shorter lances (right now, only the practice lance) were made to be 1 slot.

[Miley]

No, make everything one slot!

[Skurcey]

No, make everything one slot!

plz use a dagger

[Jacko]

Don't see why not. "Can't" use them on ground, would let cav have a much wider variety of gear and builds to choose from (nevermind the upkeep).

[Armbrust_Schtze]

lance2 slots + 1 slot shield + 1 slot 1 h.

tahts fair.

[Wookimonsta]

at least the great lances, which can't even be used to thrust might be nice to have as a 1 slot.