Long spears aka pikes

[WaltF4]

how do you figure two pikeblocks would fight?

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[Phalanx300]

I think this is a better view of Pike warfare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26C758K4Fc0

It might eventually end in that way but just charging forward with pikes is pure suicide.

Also the Pike manuals do support the fighting style shown in above movie.

[v/onMega]

Nerf their speed. thx.

[Konrax]

Speed of 15 ggkthx

[v/onMega]

more like heavy lance speed.

Pike's meant to be a support weapon, isn't it?

[Joxer]

Pike is a support weapon. Long spear can handle itself on 1v1 if the player is skilled and lucky.

[karasu]

Pike is a support weapon. Long spear can handle itself on 1v1 if the player is skilled and lucky.

And even so is a bit risky, you need to be experienced enough to be a fast reader of the specific enemy actions.

The only few people around that I can think of (seen doing it), able of winning in 1 on 1 are Zotte (crafty), Shpongled (Sh-pon-guld), and myself (cofcof).

It's very rewarding to kill in 1 on 1 specially when dealing with shielders.

I don't think the current situation of the Long Spear is so "overpowered" as related. As any weapon on this game, if used by multiple targets at the same time, it's super effective.
It's not that hard to block up or down for long spear, or hold down for pike.

The only major problem of the pikes, is the hardcoded stupid tip hitboxes, which might be able to fix with cmp's project.
Nerfing speed, or damage/animations wont deal with this, and this will still be exploited and overused.

Cheers.

[Xant]

It's not hard to block down, no, but if you just hold your thrust then your opponent is forced to block down and get hit by your teammate. There's pretty much no getting away from this, two bad players can kill a good one like this. Now, teamwork, that's all fine and dandy, but making c-RPG all about numbers is just dumb. It's easier to take someone down 2v1 with any weapons, but with longspear/pike it's just ridiculous.

[Joxer]

Any weapon can hold one attack direction chambered which forces someone to block to that direction while someone else attacks from another direction.

[Xant]

Oh really? Think a bit about why it's different. Maybe it'll come to you.

[Joxer]

Eeh... it isn't? What shrooms you use? I wan't some too.

[[ptx]]

I once saw a greatsword user holding a swing, forcing his enemy to block, whilst his buddy swung from the other side. Incredible!
But so rare, most of the time they are just trying to spam whole armies singlehandedly and complaining about pikes/long spears

[Siiem]

I once saw a greatsword user holding a swing, forcing his enemy to block, whilst his buddy swung from the other side. Incredible!
But so rare, most of the time they are just trying to spam whole armies singlehandedly and complaining about pikes/long spears

Hurr durr, derp de durr. You might as well have written that.

[Tears of Destiny]

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