Long spears aka pikes

[Joxer]

Oh whopdedoo. My main enemy is long spears so fuck off.

[ArchonAlarion]

Okay so to sum up this interaction, your argument was...?

"Longspears should keep their blocks just because". Maybe you are right, but why not explain?

[Cyclopsided]

Okay so to sum up this interaction, your argument was...?

"Longspears should keep their blocks just because". Maybe you are right, but why not explain?

How is this idea even feasible? I've already made posts, I'm not going to argue this any further.

[Tears of Destiny]

Okay so to sum up this interaction, your argument was...?

"Longspears should keep their blocks just because". Maybe you are right, but why not explain?

OK, here is my argument:
When fighting a group of people I can easily slip to the piker/long spear fella and give a quick hack, however they usually block... if this ability was removed, it would mean death on a stick in most situations, and it would be an extremely expensive weapon for the inability to block or defend against cav, only poke at cav and pray to god that your unreliable team mates can screen properly and keep the pissed off guy from chopping your head off.

Just Like Becs are an NA problem, apparently this super scary OP Pike stuff is apparently mainly an EU problem, for here they are a right pain in the ass but not OP. Removing the ability to block is just... sad. No one in their right mind would use one, especially since you have to drop it to use another weapon.

One on One a pike is not scary compared to the Real weapons, and in groups well of course it rocks everything rocks in groups.

[Tzar]

I wouldnt mind my pikeman alt wouldnt be able to block.

As it is now everyone and their mother runs around with pikes on the battle server and making it a gang bang sim thx to no1 being able to fight back 1 pike and 2 of hes team mates so you either join the big gang bang like old cRPG or u get raped.

why not remove multi and add the old xp/gold system since cRPG is turning into a blob vs blob fest again.

[Cyclopsided]

I'm all for teamwork. Cohesive movement in blobs with weapons assisting others? All for it.
Having overhead swings be broken as fuck? Nope.

Point being : Blocking is the last thing to change. Fix what is wrong, not break the class more. WTF.

[Rumblood]

OK, here is my argument:
When fighting a group of people I can easily slip to the piker/long spear fella and give a quick hack, however they usually block... if this ability was removed, it would mean death on a stick in most situations, and it would be an extremely expensive weapon for the inability to block or defend against cav, only poke at cav and pray to god that your unreliable team mates can screen properly and keep the pissed off guy from chopping your head off.

Just Like Becs are an NA problem, apparently this super scary OP Pike stuff is apparently mainly an EU problem, for here they are a right pain in the ass but not OP. Removing the ability to block is just... sad. No one in their right mind would use one, especially since you have to drop it to use another weapon.

One on One a pike is not scary compared to the Real weapons, and in groups well of course it rocks everything rocks in groups.

3 archers vs 3 longpikers. Who wins? I don't care if they can block or not  EU should l2counter 

[BaldRider]

3 archers vs 3 longpikers. Who wins? I don't care if they can block or not  EU should l2counter 

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[Rumblood]

Please stop hurting me 

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[Siiem]

Okay so to sum up this interaction, your argument was...?

"Longspears should keep their blocks just because". Maybe you are right, but why not explain?

Removing their ability to block would not really fix the problem with pikes. As they would still just be hiding behind their team mates, spin stabbing through them with their ghost heads.

[ArchonAlarion]

Removing the blocks is not ideal, but I don't think the game can currently simulate the difficulty of blocking with such a cumbersome weapon, thus distorting the weapon function. I agree that removing or reducing the overhead swing would be an easier fix. Also I assume that if blocking was removed from the longspear, the gold price would be decreased.

[Thucydides]

Removing the blocks is not ideal, but I don't think the game can currently simulate the difficulty of blocking with such a cumbersome weapon, thus distorting the weapon function. I agree that removing or reducing the overhead swing would be an easier fix. Also I assume that if blocking was removed from the longspear, the gold price would be decreased.

in real life people can use a shield with a 14 foot pike, in real life there would not be a need to block because a pike wall would keep people from comming close, unlike how we can phase through weapons and people in CRPG.

Pike was op in real life, much more so than the long spear. The overhead is abusable yes, but its not as OP as everyone says it is.

[Cyclopsided]

in real life people can use a shield with a 14 foot pike, in real life there would not be a need to block because a pike wall would keep people from comming close, unlike how we can phase through weapons and people in CRPG.

Pike was op in real life, much more so than the long spear. The overhead is abusable yes, but its not as OP as everyone says it is.

14 foot / a shield? 8 to 10 feet being standard shield&spear length, 10 being a little cumbersome for weaker people. 12 being hard to use but doable for some.  14 foot with a shield? The only people I can imagine seeing do that are the people I see when at the gym, you know, the kind that look like they are smuggling watermelons in their shirt sleeves.

[Tears of Destiny]

14 foot / a shield? 8 to 10 feet being standard shield&spear length, 10 being a little cumbersome for weaker people. 12 being hard to use but doable for many.  14 foot with a shield? The only people I can imagine seeing do that are the people I see when at the gym, you know, the kind that look like they are smuggling watermelons in their shirt sleeves.

I saw it in a movie, and did it a lot in a video game.

[Cyclopsided]

I saw it in a movie, and did it a lot in a video game.

not in this one at least. bamboo spear is 8 to 9 feet though. (Which is really sad that we don't have any shield/spear combos that look realistic. Closest being light lance )