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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #105 on: August 08, 2011, 04:24:55 pm »
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Don't raise soft cap. A level 30 build can do a lot as that is 31 skill points 29 attribute points plus base six, and enough to make any reasonable themed character for nearly any kind of build. If you can not make your ideal character at level 30 then you are doing something wrong.
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #106 on: August 08, 2011, 04:34:11 pm »
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Don't raise soft cap. A level 30 build can do a lot as that is 31 skill points 29 attribute points plus base six, and enough to make any reasonable themed character for nearly any kind of build. If you can not make your ideal character at level 30 then you are doing something wrong.

Agreed. Doing something wrong, or expecting too much.

No character should be able to do it all, even as much I want to recreate my single player master-of-all-trades, jack-of-none behemoth of ungodly fury.

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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #107 on: August 08, 2011, 04:34:20 pm »
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Don't raise soft cap. A level 30 build can do a lot as that is 31 skill points 29 attribute points plus base six, and enough to make any reasonable themed character for nearly any kind of build. If you can not make your ideal character at level 30 then you are doing something wrong.
I started way to late 2.. Got stuck at lvl 30 (so did my friends), and now I cant seem to get to 31. So ill just hope for a patch that change the XP factor (or anything else).
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #108 on: August 10, 2011, 08:06:06 pm »
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I've been playing on my current character since mid january and I retired 2.8 times. If I would just get xp on duel this number would be much higher.

USED to be, you did. I took a 2h agi build from lvl 5 to 30 on duel. Pre upkeep days.

I would like to see XP back on duels, but that would require upkeep also: since its difficult to balance that, as in, do you risk breakage EVERY life, or timewise, or what?

I started way to late 2.. Got stuck at lvl 30 (so did my friends), and now I cant seem to get to 31. So ill just hope for a patch that change the XP factor (or anything else).

Erm.....how did you get STUCK? 30 to 31 is your toon's PRIME as a fighter. From 20 to 30 most builds are capable and improving warriors, at 30 they peak and are at their best...31 isnt so far away when you play for fun...
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2011, 01:57:29 am »
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USED to be, you did. I took a 2h agi build from lvl 5 to 30 on duel. Pre upkeep days.

I would like to see XP back on duels, but that would require upkeep also: since its difficult to balance that, as in, do you risk breakage EVERY life, or timewise, or what?

duel system needs the old xp per kill system to be effective. then 1k XP per duel won and 25 gold, with half the upkeep of a normal battle server.

or something like that. to find the right numbers i think it needs testing.

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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2011, 04:52:58 am »
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I don't even see the point in retiring anymore. You'll be performing a lot better at level 32+, so you will help your team get x5 much much easier.

If you want to get heirlooms, just play in light armor for a while and you will get ~300k for a generation's worth of experience anyways. Your build will still be superior to most players so you're still pretty deadly even in light armor. And that's if you want money fast. I feel that higher levels just give better options.

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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2011, 05:03:00 am »
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I don't even see the point in retiring anymore. You'll be performing a lot better at level 32+, so you will help your team get x5 much much easier.

Was thinking the same, but then i got proven differently. Thought i wont never retire again, but heck, as soon as i get to 20ish or whatnot, i happen to see myself on the winning side quite often, and then i just get to 31 and i am like: okay, but, what if i tried to swap these points from str to agi? so i just retire, give out(or sell) the loompoint and start again :)

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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2011, 09:28:18 am »
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I don't even see the point in retiring anymore. You'll be performing a lot better at level 32+, so you will help your team get x5 much much easier.

If you want to get heirlooms, just play in light armor for a while and you will get ~300k for a generation's worth of experience anyways. Your build will still be superior to most players so you're still pretty deadly even in light armor. And that's if you want money fast. I feel that higher levels just give better options.

OR you can run with FULL GEAR 24 7 by only selling 2 retirement loom points.

i could be level 34... but i have 5millions worth of retired items.... 2 MW weapons and soon +14 armor bonus from lordly chest armor and gloves.

another thing... with a level 33-34-35 character, you will NEVER retire. So, pray your build will not get a nerf  :P

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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #113 on: August 12, 2011, 10:07:39 am »
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I'll come in and toss my own 2 pence in. It seems that everything is all fine until suddenly you hit level 30 and are required to grind hard to level 31, which takes quite sometime. But whenever you look at the stat increase in your retirement menu, I have to say that retiring is super over-rated and hardly worth the final grind, which sheds a wee tear to me eye.
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #114 on: August 12, 2011, 11:18:53 am »
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It seems that everything is all fine until suddenly you hit level 30 and are required to grind hard to level 31
You're not required to grind. Enjoy playing instead. Your character is 'finished' at level 30... no need to 'grind hard'.

I have to say that retiring is super over-rated and hardly worth the final grind

Again, nobody is forcing you. Do not retire, unless you feel like it. And what is with this 'grinding' obsession? Retire when you feel like a fresh start or when you're bored with your current build and want the challenge of being a lowbie.


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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #115 on: August 12, 2011, 01:57:28 pm »
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #116 on: August 12, 2011, 07:19:12 pm »
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You're not required to grind. Enjoy playing instead. Your character is 'finished' at level 30... no need to 'grind hard'.

Again, nobody is forcing you. Do not retire, unless you feel like it. And what is with this 'grinding' obsession? Retire when you feel like a fresh start or when you're bored with your current build and want the challenge of being a lowbie.
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #117 on: August 12, 2011, 07:20:59 pm »
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Thanks for wasting your time sir, your trollery is much appreciated.

I don't think he was trolling. Honestly I like my main build so much now that I will never retire ever again because I enjoy how he works.
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #118 on: August 12, 2011, 10:00:31 pm »
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Re: Why does we have this slow grind? *CURIOUS*
« Reply #119 on: August 12, 2011, 10:48:21 pm »
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Thanks for wasting your time sir, your trollery is much appreciated.
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