nerfed archer again

[forgivers]

Bodkin Arrows   

weight 3
weapon length 91
thrust damage 7,pierce
max ammo 16

-1 dmg and -2 ammo can live with it but deeply suck


Strong War Bow

weight 1.5
requirement 6
spd rtng 59
shoot speed 52  (was 62 before)
thrust damage 28 cut
accuracy 96

that ll make bow suck hardcore

[bruce]

You still get a projectile speed bonus from PD, so arrows are faster then eg. crossbow bolts.

[RagnarLodbroke]

Bodkin Arrows   

weight 3
weapon length 91
thrust damage 7,pierce
max ammo 16

-1 dmg and -2 ammo can live with it but deeply suck


Strong War Bow

weight 1.5
requirement 6
spd rtng 59
shoot speed 52  (was 62 before)
thrust damage 28 cut
accuracy 96

that ll make bow suck hardcore

i dont think the shoot speed was 62 before...
What i think is that the speed rating was 62, which is 59 now!

[Cup1d]

So we have another changes in ballistics?

[forgivers]

shot speed is defnatly slower then before

[forgivers]

archer is once again nerfed to floor .... need to be at close range for it to be effective and zig zag guys are just imposible to touch or so

good job with the nerf

[chadz]

It is an experiment, it might get reverted again, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

The idea is that archery should not get nerfed by decreasing damage or increasing randomness, but should take more skill to handle. Bows should no longer be lasersighted sniper rifles, but you will have to lead your targets and take the trajectory more into account.

If it will not get reverted, bows might get more accuracy or more damage to compensate, we'll wait and see how it turns out.

(Oh and this was my idea)

[Gorath]

Hate you?

(Can't bring myself to say it emphatically when you're nerfing archers      Just want to give you a snog instead)

[Punisher]

Hope this solves the ranged spam that invaded cRPG again, I played the whole day yesterday and it was just like before the big patch. Great job chadz!

[forgivers]

i got the idea, but right now its very deceiving, pointless to use warbow over strong for only 1  shot speed more but way less speed rating.  Long bow could just be removed from the list cause its impossible to use  since .200, only hybrid archer gonna be viable atm

[Lanic0r]

More skill? I see its more and more this like : What, an archer killed a guy? This is too easy, sry but no archer should kill anyone!

We got tripple nerfed again
1. decreased number of arrows
2. less pierce damage
3. slower arrows

Now cav almost riding faster than arrows fly.
Plz chadz try archer from the botton and then direct. Try to kill anyone with hunting bow, you will see, there is nothing less fun!

[Babelfish]

Interesting approach, cant wait to test it ingame

[Keshian]

It is an experiment, it might get reverted again, but it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

The idea is that archery should not get nerfed by decreasing damage or increasing randomness, but should take more skill to handle. Bows should no longer be lasersighted sniper rifles, but you will have to lead your targets and take the trajectory more into account.

If it will not get reverted, bows might get more accuracy or more damage to compensate, we'll wait and see how it turns out.

(Oh and this was my idea)

chadz I actually like this alot.  Get rid of the randomness so more skill involved.  Leading targets is what all good archcers should do.  Dont need to add more damage, but more accuracy with slower shoot speed actually would be great and would make it more of a skill then a spamfest.  Thanks.

[Kalam]

Pre-patch, I was all for nerfing archers.

I guess I didn't quite get how far this could be taken. In truth, I'd be fine with it...except...I don't know. It feels so wrong, to have archers somewhere near the bottom of my list of targets to kill.

That and I quite liked it when archers could take out throwers before they came within range. Now they've both got about the same effective distance, except throwers have a higher rate of fire and more damage.

The archers have more arrows.

[Dravic]

chadz, please, get higher shot speed again! really, no WAY to shot someone from hunting bow now, it is almost like throwing now, except for 2 things: because throwing is faster and do more dmg...

I wont say anything about longbow and warbow, because i didnt use them in cRPG, but nomad bow is RIDICULOUS! Zig zag = archers fail, whatever you think.