1h shield is too difficult at the moment

[ManOfWar]

Also shielders are especially strong these days because shield doesn't slow them down as it used to, so high agi shielders can catch archers, and also have good speed bonus which in combination with nature of their attacks (it's easiest to hit head using 1H weapons) leads to a very effective class for killing. Of course only aggressive shielders have that advantage, but if you're being defensive you're doing it wrong. Most 2H can't do much against aggressive shielder who knows to tap shield then hit then tap shield mechanics. Only slow and defensive guys don't do well as shielders.

dont nerf me, I am not a 2 hit killing machine with my nordic war sword

1h is balanced right now, can we let this damned thread die?

[Tears of Destiny]

dont nerf me, I am not a 2 hit killing machine with my nordic war sword

1h is balanced right now, can we let this damned thread die?

No, we gotta nerf every possible thing at once, and keep honoring the threads started by Michael.

[San]

Also shielders are especially strong these days

What?

One handed:         29799 (19.96%)
Two handed:        44510 (29.82%)
Polearms:         47422 (31.77%)

Looks standard to me.

Shielders are more defensive support, protecting and helping teammates approach the other team quickly/easily. For now, I think str-based shielders are the way to go, it's just so much easier. You can tank/protect teammates better, take hits, and deal damage.

[Leshma]

dont nerf me, I am not a 2 hit killing machine with my nordic war sword

1h is balanced right now, can we let this damned thread die?

lol

who said anything about nerfing 1h?

this thread is about buffing them, remember?

i agree that 1h is fine, just wanted to point out that it's very viable and strong, but only if you know how to play and are aggressive.

about 2 hit killing machines, that has something to do with str builds and holding chambered weapons forever. if paul manage to fix that, you'll see a lot less 2h/pole players. archery is good example how things should be done, right now only dedicated and skilled people can be succesful with it, we need something similar for every class, especially for cavalry and xbow.

Shielders are more defensive support, protecting and helping teammates approach the other team quickly/easily. For now, I think str-based shielders are the way to go, it's just so much easier. You can tank/protect teammates better, take hits, and deal damage.

no they are not. every player in this game protects only his own ass. i haven't seen a shielder protecting friendly 2h player from enemy archer in a loong time...

[Kafein]

no they are not. every player in this game protects only his own ass because players unable to protect themselves don't use allies as cover. i haven't seen a shielder shieldless infantry protecting friendly using the cover offered by 2h player shielders to protect them from enemy archers in a loong time...

Fixed it for you. Countless times I was charging an archer together with a 2h ally, the 2h runs next to me (not behind) and gets killed like a tard.

[Xant]

Countless times I was running behind a shielder, using him for cover against arrows... only to have him dodge the arrow (?!?!?!) and so the arrow hits me instead. After that I started only using shielders I know for cover.

[Thucydides]

i've ran behind a shielder and get headshotted somehow. makes me rage

[Jarlek]

All this bitching about what is easiest, yet NOBODY mention how fucking underpowered spear+shield is. You wanna go hardmode? grab a warspear and a shield, NEVER put shield away, and see how ya do.

[Leshma]

I agree, most 1h weapons are highly unbalanced between themselves. For instance, there is no reason other than looking cool, to pick any of the straight swords when Spamitar, Steel Pick and Warhammer are much more efficient. Shorthess of those blunt/pierce weapons means nothing because you can easily make 12/24 build which will give you the best of those worlds, damage of cut sword with 6 ps and much more speed. That's all because cut damage really sux these days, because of riduculous armor looms.

To prove my point, I'll just say that most famous EU minmaxing faction, Druzhina uses exclusively steel pick...

[Lech]

All this bitching about what is easiest, yet NOBODY mention how fucking underpowered spear+shield is. You wanna go hardmode? grab a warspear and a shield, NEVER put shield away, and see how ya do.

I play 1h + spear + shield atm, using mostly spear and shield, it's fine with mw red tessel spear.

[Ginosaji]

no they are not. every player in this game protects only his own ass. i haven't seen a shielder protecting friendly 2h player from enemy archer in a loong time...

I always try to shield other people, but I'm a slow turtle, so they don't have the patience to stay behind me.
But ask Dado, he's often hiding behind my shield

[Jarlek]

I play 1h + spear + shield atm, using mostly spear and shield, it's fine with mw red tessel spear.

You have a 1h for when you are alone, which is when spearmen are the most fucked up? Although a tassel spear is probably better than a warspear because of the speed, you can't really say that it's good enough when you are alone. Your still gonna be ganked.

Also I'm also using 1h+spear+shield right now, at least when I am on foot. It is really usefull, but i think that is mainly because you can switch to the 1h when you have no teammates around. Try going ONLY spear + shield and you'll see what I'm talking about.

And to the people who is gonna whine about this. I'm not saying that a shield and spear should be GOOD in duesl/alone, but it should be a VIABLE option. Just giving you one more attack direction (some say overstab, but I think one swing attack could be fine too) would make it WAY more usefull. Remember that you currently only have 1 attack direction TOGETHER with a huge speed and damage penalty.

[Dezilagel]

What's wrong with spear-shield?

Shield + spear is an excellent support class and for 1v1 you just drop the shield.

Playing "hardmode" never dropping the shield is indeed hard if you happen to find yourself in a 1v1.

It is also very stupid.

[Thucydides]

What's wrong with spear-shield?

Shield + spear is an excellent support class and for 1v1 you just drop the shield.

Playing "hardmode" never dropping the shield is indeed hard if you happen to find yourself in a 1v1.

It is also very stupid.

not only that but polestun+98 speed= permastun

[Leshma]

For some reason I can't perma stun people with fast spears and pikes but have no problem doing that with 90 speed pitchfork.