1h shield is too difficult at the moment

[Thucydides]

i topped the scoreboard with a 13-4 record naked riding a sumpter and 2 riding. NERF CAV

[Christo]

 

[Vodner]

I've played one gen of 1h, a couple gens of 2h, and one gen of polearm. I will be playing 1h next gen so I will get pincushioned less in strat.

I did not find my 1h gen to be any harder (or any easier) than playing 2H. My KDR was pretty much exactly the same.

It is my opinion that 1H, 2H, and polearms are really well balanced right now:

* 1H gets a shield, a left-swing that nearly always hits the head, and animations that can be very tricky to block when well feinted.
* 2H gets all-round excellent animations, and fairly high damage weapons.
* Polearms get polestun, high damage weapons, and balanced shieldbreakers (in exchange for really bad animations).

[Thucydides]

I've played one gen of 1h, a couple gens of 2h, and one gen of polearm. I will be playing 1h next gen so I will get pincushioned less in strat.

I did not find my 1h gen to be any harder (or any easier) than playing 2H. My KDR was pretty much exactly the same.

thats because you hack

[Leshma]

Atm 1h shield is very viable and very strong class.

But sadly most 1h players are complete noobs. They try 2h, can't block, get killed every time, try archery, low damage and arc, hear from others that you don't have to manual block so they go 1h and they are kinda satisfied because they don't die as often.

Some of them eventually buy a horse or try xbow and that way they can score some kills...

[Gorath]

I've played one gen of 1h, a couple gens of 2h, and one gen of polearm. I will be playing 1h next gen so I will get pincushioned less in strat.

I did not find my 1h gen to be any harder (or any easier) than playing 2H. My KDR was pretty much exactly the same.

It is my opinion that 1H, 2H, and polearms are really well balanced right now:

* 1H gets a shield, a left-swing that nearly always hits the head, and animations that can be very tricky to block when well feinted.
* 2H gets all-round excellent animations, and fairly high damage weapons.
* Polearms get polestun, high damage weapons, and balanced shieldbreakers (in exchange for really bad animations).

THANK YOU.
Nice to hear someone else seeing the big picture and finding the overall balance between the classes to be pretty hunky dory atm.  I agree.  Add in cav and ranged.  I may hate them with a passion, but I don't find them "OP" by themselves.  Most "issues" are more of a meta-game issue and player mentality/class choice problem.  15 ranged on one team with 5 cav and a few melee guys vs the other team with only has 2 dedicated ranged, 1 cav and the rest infantry just makes for a piss poor game as the first team roflstomps the other most of the time.

[Karmazyn]

 I like how 2h trolls spam every thread about shields, ofc its fine for you but some people want have same possibilities like Cooties or Varyag in strategus as a 1h/shield class.

[IG_Saint]

So

Just made a skip the fun 1h peasant

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The only class thats even easier than 1h is 1h+shield.

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Seriously though, the melee balance is fine. There are some things that I don't like (polearm stun, the way shield work, holds), but those are more to do with how the engine works and less with balance.

[Karmazyn]

You could go to EU1 and play against people everybody know.
Or you could join strategus.

[Teeth]

How the hell did a topic started by Michael make it to the 13th page? What is wrong with this community?

[Xant]

No one cares about Michael's posts, people are discussing with the other posters.

[Corrado_Decimo]

Atm 1h shield is very viable and very strong class.

But sadly most 1h players are complete noobs. They try 2h, can't block, get killed every time, try archery, low damage and arc, hear from others that you don't have to manual block so they go 1h and they are kinda satisfied because they don't die as often.

Some of them eventually buy a horse or try xbow and that way they can score some kills...

and some of them eventually fail even at mounted xbowmen, they reroll 1h and open threads like this about game balance.

after a long time playing this game, is rather hard to admit to be below the average skill. and failing to admit this, will only lead you to die in the first 30 seconds of a round.

i see shielders top the battle scoreboards most of the time. not to mention 1h infantry and specially 1h cavalry rule the strat battles.

i was thinking to reroll 1h too to be more effective in strat battles and roll a 2h alt for fun.

[Lech]

and some of them eventually fail even at mounted xbowmen, they reroll 1h and open threads like this about game balance.

after a long time playing this game, is rather hard to admit to be below the average skill. and failing to admit this, will only lead you to die in the first 30 seconds of a round.

i see shielders top the battle scoreboards most of the time. not to mention 1h infantry and specially 1h cavalry rule the strat battles.

i was thinking to reroll 1h too to be more effective in strat battles and roll a 2h alt for fun.

Lol, you have problems playing 2h in strat?

[Leshma]

Also shielders are especially strong these days because shield doesn't slow them down as it used to, so high agi shielders can catch archers, and also have good speed bonus which in combination with nature of their attacks (it's easiest to hit head using 1H weapons) leads to a very effective class for killing. Of course only aggressive shielders have that advantage, but if you're being defensive you're doing it wrong. Most 2H can't do much against aggressive shielder who knows to tap shield then hit then tap shield mechanics. Only slow and defensive guys don't do well as shielders.

[Corrado_Decimo]

Lol, you have problems playing 2h in strat?

i said i have problems in strats? seems to me that instead you have some problems reading...

i said "more effective" because you can shield archers, you can stay "shield up" in a open position while still giving orders to your squad (instead of dodging missiles, staying behind cover like a 2h do).

kid, this game isn't all about "BLOCK, KILL, KILL, BLOCK, BLOCK, KILL, ZOMG look! i topped the scoreboard!"

there are other things to do besides that.