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Offline v/onMega

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #150 on: August 31, 2011, 02:03:32 pm »
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Quote from: Vibe on August 31, 2011, 01:04:43 pm
yet

Nahhh, you don't get it.
Thats an addicts way to find a valid reason to keep playing this mod ;-)

When things are too easy or overused or boring you have to go for the hard way.

You simply have to suprise yourself or really quit.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #151 on: August 31, 2011, 02:21:43 pm »
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Quote from: v/onMega on August 31, 2011, 02:03:32 pm
Nahhh, you don't get it.
Thats an addicts way to find a valid reason to keep playing this mod ;-)

When things are too easy or overused or boring you have to go for the hard way.

You simply have to suprise yourself or really quit.

1h + shield is different, but not really harder. As for myself, I got bored of being a shielder after 1 gen, I simply missed manual blocking.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #152 on: August 31, 2011, 03:27:25 pm »
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Quote from: Vibe on August 31, 2011, 02:21:43 pm
1h + shield is different, but not really harder. As for myself, I got bored of being a shielder after 1 gen, I simply missed manual blocking.

There is so many shield dechunking polearmers, I actually dont miss anything for naooow ;-)

Btw, nothing is hard in this game, if played correctly, isnt it :-)?

Just if ofc.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #153 on: August 31, 2011, 07:19:01 pm »
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This is balance:

Easy to harder: Polearms>Shielder>throwing>2hander>Crossbows>archery=horse archery=pole cav

Polearms:Full pole spam with axe to shielders ! none can stand against this poles...
Shield:Easiest or second easiest.Just wait enemy attack then attack...If you are pro , pole is better for you ...
Throwing: Too epic damage in crpg.take enemies in 2-3 shoot.Fun !
2 hander:Fight with 130 meters great swords.Fun and balanced.
Crossbows:Epic damage epic accuray but low speed...
Archery:Too bad at crpg...It sucks and hard.
Horse archery:Hard.Your arrows wont go straight ! it is bad...
Pole cav:Crpg mod fucked it for balance.You can only attack straight; it makes you cant hurt peasant with trident...
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #154 on: August 31, 2011, 09:00:10 pm »
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Quote from: bertas on August 31, 2011, 07:19:01 pm
This is balance:

Easy to harder: Polearms>Shielder>throwing>2hander>Crossbows>archery=horse archery=pole cav

Polearms:Full pole spam with axe to shielders ! none can stand against this poles...
Shield:Easiest or second easiest.Just wait enemy attack then attack...If you are pro , pole is better for you ...
Throwing: Too epic damage in crpg.take enemies in 2-3 shoot.Fun !
2 hander:Fight with 130 meters great swords.Fun and balanced.
Crossbows:Epic damage epic accuray but low speed...
Archery:Too bad at crpg...It sucks and hard.
Horse archery:Hard.Your arrows wont go straight ! it is bad...
Pole cav:Crpg mod fucked it for balance.You can only attack straight; it makes you cant hurt peasant with trident...



 :lol:
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Quote from: Paul on June 20, 2011, 10:58:25 pm
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
:lol:

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #155 on: August 31, 2011, 09:07:38 pm »
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Quote from: bertas on August 31, 2011, 07:19:01 pm
This is balance:

Easy to harder: Polearms>Shielder>throwing>2hander>Crossbows>archery=horse archery=pole cav

Polearms:Full pole spam with axe to shielders ! none can stand against this poles...
Shield:Easiest or second easiest.Just wait enemy attack then attack...If you are pro , pole is better for you ...
Throwing: Too epic damage in crpg.take enemies in 2-3 shoot.Fun !
2 hander:Fight with 130 meters great swords.Fun and balanced.
Crossbows:Epic damage epic accuray but low speed...
Archery:Too bad at crpg...It sucks and hard.
Horse archery:Hard.Your arrows wont go straight ! it is bad...
Pole cav:Crpg mod fucked it for balance.You can only attack straight; it makes you cant hurt peasant with trident...
certainly true.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #156 on: August 31, 2011, 09:15:39 pm »
+1
note to self: never take blackmilk's or bertas's  balance suggestions seriously from this point forward.
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Quote from: Paul on June 20, 2011, 10:58:25 pm
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
:lol:

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2011, 09:17:25 pm »
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Quote from: Seawied on August 31, 2011, 09:15:39 pm
note to self: never take blackmilk's or bertas's  balance suggestions seriously from this point forward.
what I want to say is that not everything that he says is completly useless. :D
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2011, 09:31:36 pm »
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Quote from: BlackMilk on August 31, 2011, 09:17:25 pm
what I want to say is that not everything that he says is completly useless. :D

Fair enough  :D
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Quote from: Paul on June 20, 2011, 10:58:25 pm
So with PT >10 stones become simple too effective
:lol:

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #159 on: August 31, 2011, 10:12:38 pm »
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Quote from: bertas on August 31, 2011, 07:19:01 pm
This is balance:

Easy to harder: Polearms>Shielder>throwing>2hander>Crossbows>archery=horse archery=pole cav

Polearms:Full pole spam with axe to shielders ! none can stand against this poles...
Shield:Easiest or second easiest.Just wait enemy attack then attack...If you are pro , pole is better for you ...
Throwing: Too epic damage in crpg.take enemies in 2-3 shoot.Fun !
2 hander:Fight with 130 meters great swords.Fun and balanced.
Crossbows:Epic damage epic accuray but low speed...
Archery:Too bad at crpg...It sucks and hard.
Horse archery:Hard.Your arrows wont go straight ! it is bad...
Pole cav:Crpg mod fucked it for balance.You can only attack straight; it makes you cant hurt peasant with trident...

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #160 on: August 31, 2011, 10:20:48 pm »
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Is this one better ?

Easy to harder: Crossbows>archery>throwing>2hander>HA>HX>Polearms>pole cav>Shielder>1h cav>2h cav>mounted thrower>swashbuckler>peasant>peasant with peasant clothes



Although one might argue that with a spammitar, a shielder is 200% easier to play.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #161 on: August 31, 2011, 10:23:12 pm »
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Quote from: Kafein on August 31, 2011, 10:20:48 pm
Is this one better ?

Easy to harder: Crossbows>archery>throwing>2hander>HA>HX>Polearms>pole cav>Shielder>1h cav>2h cav>mounted thrower>swashbuckler>peasant>peasant with peasant clothes



Although one might argue that with a spammitar, a shielder is 200% easier to play.
dude you cant be serious. 1h and Polearms are WAY more easier to play with than archery.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #162 on: August 31, 2011, 11:36:19 pm »
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Yeah, archery goes waaaaay up the difficulty scale now, crossbows are epic ez-mode.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #163 on: September 01, 2011, 12:02:44 am »
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My personal opininon on how easy class' are
easiest on top

1.Crossbows
2.Cavalry(1h or lance, both are equialy easy)
3.2h
4.1h
5.archery*
6.HA**

*archery depends alot on looms but not as much as ha

**horse archery is curently unbalanced, hard, overdependant on looms, and most of all pure luck, no skill involved, being that tricky i put it as hardest
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #164 on: September 01, 2011, 12:41:19 am »
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Quote from: BlackMilk on August 31, 2011, 10:23:12 pm
dude you cant be serious. 1h and Polearms are WAY more easier to play with than archery.

Shoot, run, shoot, run, shoot, run. Maybe dodge or OS one idiotic cav that tries to poke you. I don't really consider that difficult. It's just the same as the xbowman. With a little less accuracy, but a way better rate of fire. I still consider archery more difficult than xbows though (probably because I didn't tried it with full +3 equipment). But the fact that you can avoid all melee combat with very few exceptions makes these two classes ridiculously OP.

I'm not speaking about the early game btw. This is for experienced players, with some looms.

Cavalry may seem easy, but don't forget you have to be more effective than a footman if you want to break even (more than 50% win rate). Furthermore, it was nerfed so hard that only the core (very good) players remain.
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