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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #120 on: August 19, 2011, 10:25:15 pm »
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Why oh why is this thread even still going guys?

1h/shield is in a good place currently.
2h/polearms are in a good place currently.
Archery/Xbows/throwing are all in a good place currently.
Cavalry... well that will always be in a good place even if couching was the only thing you could do with it and there was only sumpter horses so meh.

There's still some internal balance issues within each catagory, but compared to each other as a whole cRPG is actually in quite a nice state of balance at the moment.  (Even if there's far too many projectiles in the air to call it mount and blade anymore instead of mount and pew)

I'm with Gorath on this one. Overall everything is really well balanced. I main 1h and I don't think it's ever been this good. Sure it doesn't do the damage of 2h or pole, but you have WAY better defense and you are overall MUCH faster. Who cares if a 2hander does more damage if they can't even hit me?
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #121 on: August 19, 2011, 11:17:47 pm »
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This thread was pointless from the start anyway.

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #122 on: August 19, 2011, 11:26:29 pm »
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This thread was pointless from the start anyway.

Gee, well done, Captain Obvious, a pointless thread by Michael? Really?

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #123 on: August 21, 2011, 03:07:19 pm »
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It's realy fu......g hard whis 1handed

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #124 on: August 21, 2011, 03:56:30 pm »
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Im playing 1h for one week now. If i play concentrated it is no problem to top scoreboards on siege servers.
Tbh i still have problems on battle but i havent trained a lot with the gamestyle.

=> It is easier to gather easy kills with 2H-Sword but if you play smart you can also do it with 1H while having much better defense capabilities.
=> It seems very balanced atm. 1h are fine.

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #125 on: August 21, 2011, 04:43:57 pm »
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1h is fine but the only problem is see is that sometimes ill fight a 2 hander and he will use his lolstab to curve his blade behind me and kill me even tho im facing directly infront of him...its only happened a few times

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #126 on: August 21, 2011, 07:18:37 pm »
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Get a fast shield (100 speed one) and block with it as you would with a 2h weapons (directional). Drastically decreases the chance to get hit begind your shield.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #127 on: August 21, 2011, 07:50:56 pm »
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Get a fast shield (100 speed one) and block with it as you would with a 2h weapons (directional). Drastically decreases the chance to get hit begind your shield.

Is there any proof to this cause it sounds like it's in your head, lol.

afaik directional blocking doesn't do shit for shields.  I'm sure it's how many of us block unconciously with shields anyways when we go shielder for a gen after playing our 2h/polearmers.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #128 on: August 21, 2011, 08:00:20 pm »
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1h is fine but the only problem is see is that sometimes ill fight a 2 hander and he will use his lolstab to curve his blade behind me and kill me even tho im facing directly infront of him...its only happened a few times

With proper facing I've never had this happen to me ever. It honestly sounds like a case of using a slow shield. What shield do you use by the way?

Just so you know, fast shields (100 speed) will block BEFORE the shield is raised. Slow shields (61 speed) block sometime AFTER the shield is raised. I don't know where the values between those fall as far as blocking goes 'cause I've never tested. However, even though it looks like your shield is up, that doesn't mean it's blocking...
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #129 on: August 21, 2011, 08:06:56 pm »
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even though it looks like your shield is up, that doesn't mean it's blocking...

One of the great things about the game...   :lol:
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #130 on: August 21, 2011, 08:40:59 pm »
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oh then thats probably why cuse i use a huscarl

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #131 on: August 21, 2011, 08:46:23 pm »
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Is there any proof to this cause it sounds like it's in your head, lol.

afaik directional blocking doesn't do shit for shields.  I'm sure it's how many of us block unconciously with shields anyways when we go shielder for a gen after playing our 2h/polearmers.

What it does, is make sure you face the incomming hit properly. Other than that it does nothing. BUT, the main reason people get hit behind their shield is because they didn't face the enemy properly.
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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #132 on: August 22, 2011, 04:28:22 am »
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With proper facing I've never had this happen to me ever. It honestly sounds like a case of using a slow shield. What shield do you use by the way?

Just so you know, fast shields (100 speed) will block BEFORE the shield is raised. Slow shields (61 speed) block sometime AFTER the shield is raised. I don't know where the values between those fall as far as blocking goes 'cause I've never tested. However, even though it looks like your shield is up, that doesn't mean it's blocking...

Masterpiece knightly heater shield, shield skill 6, occasionally I get stabs and overhand swings past me then moved towards me scoring a hit.

Same thing with directly facing a target and a side swing with polearms usually still hitting despite a perfect frontal facing.

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #133 on: August 22, 2011, 07:05:04 am »
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Naw, that is probably due to the way 2h stab animation is nowadays, it still hits once the animation is past the stab, so you probably lowered your block early.

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Re: 1h shield is too difficult at the moment
« Reply #134 on: August 22, 2011, 04:59:41 pm »
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I know when I lower my block early, its stab to the feet off to the side then moved to hit a toe or leg.