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Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« on: July 31, 2011, 12:53:58 pm »
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There's no downside to riding a horse, only an advantage. I don't care if you say that they have high upkeep, most people can afford it anyway, and it's very unfriendly towards newer players. They can knock you down, swarm you and knock you down some more, and then you're just target practice. With good maneuvering their spears are unstoppable no matter what your speed. For an entire game my whole team stood on a hill, and hid around a building just to avoid cavalry. They have way too much influence. Some cavalry even jumped onto the roof of the building, and also killed players on steep hills, which is extremely unrealistic. Cavalry uphill speed & jumps should be heavily nerfed if possible. Currently, not even most strategies can save you (even worse, the cavalry clans are all in vent so they're more difficult, but that's beside the point).

If a mostly-infantry team is against a heavy-cavalry team, then they're always going to die, unless the team gets equal amount of cavalry.  Even then, if the opposite team has somewhat better cavalry, then it's still a loss. This is how my games almost always go, and I'm very tired of it. They're imbalanced and they're forcing me to re-spec my character or go to a low-population server. It's a game-breaker for a lot of us. People can't just become cavalry since it's very expensive, and it isn't a preferred playstyle for some.

So many players complain about cavalry for a reason. Fix them?
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 12:58:48 pm »
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What is your build? 1hander?
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 01:02:30 pm »
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What is your build? 1hander?
Let me guess, you're a 2-hander right? Makes sense, since Cavalry have alienated 1-handers for months.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 01:06:22 pm »
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My long espeda one shots full speeding courses easily by stabbing there face  :rolleyes:

And then I have the upper hand because im not hybrid.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 01:07:53 pm »
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Let me guess, you're a 2-hander right? Makes sense, since Cavalry have alienated 1-handers for months.

I asked first. And why are you jumping on me like that?

Check my avatar. Do I look like a friggin' 2hander?  :rolleyes:



PS: The "lol cav killed 1handers for months" argument is a fail. Cavalry is a lot weaker than before, and we have more well performing shielders/onehanders than ever.

Just adapt, like everyone else, and get some awareness instead of making nerf posts.


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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 01:12:47 pm »
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I know this is a silly argument "get a pike/spear", but it really does work, even thomek(ninja) runs around with a bamboo spear now..
And if you cant hit a lancer/1h cav with a long spear, all I can say is you really suck/have lots latency or FPS lag.
Its not like you need a skill to use a spear/pike, unlike in the shield case.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 01:13:49 pm »
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I know this is a silly argument "get a pike/spear", but it really does work, even thomek(ninja) runs around with a bamboo spear now..
And if you cant hit a lancer/1h cav with a long spear, all I can say is you really suck/have lots latency or FPS lag.

Actually Thomek is running around with that a looong, I mean looong time ago. 2010 late summer/autumn I believe.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 01:14:31 pm »
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There's too much cav atm, sometimes It's worse than Swadia vs Khergit native deathmatch.

And with the shitty balance all cav goes to the same team often.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 01:15:24 pm »
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There's too much cav atm, sometimes It's worse than Swadia vs Khergit native deathmatch.

And with the shitty balance all cav goes to the same team often.

You have a point. Cavalry and ranged should be balanced between teams, after that banner stacker should kick in.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 01:19:20 pm »
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I know this is a silly argument "get a pike/spear", but it really does work, even thomek(ninja) runs around with a bamboo spear now..
And if you cant hit a lancer/1h cav with a long spear, all I can say is you really suck/have lots latency or FPS lag.
Its not like you need a skill to use a spear/pike, unlike in the shield case.

This isn't 1v1. When I join a join a random game, not everyone is going to have that same idea. Plus, this is also multiple cavalry we're talking about. Carrying a spear or pike only works to a certain degree.

Cavalry have too much influence on the game.

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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 01:22:24 pm »
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There's too much cav atm, sometimes It's worse than Swadia vs Khergit native deathmatch.

And with the shitty balance all cav goes to the same team often.
Doesn't the auto-balancer place people with the same tag on the same team? Some clans are full cavalry.

It's pretty bad.


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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 01:23:19 pm »
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 01:27:02 pm »
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 01:28:44 pm »
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Polearm & throwing hybrid.

No excuses then, you should be able to counter the cavalry.

My Elegant can take most cav alone, only the very skilled lancers give me a slight headache.
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Re: Cavalry Are Still Overpowered
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 01:38:14 pm »
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No excuses then, you should be able to counter the cavalry.

My Elegant can take most cav alone, only the very skilled lancers give me a slight headache.
That doesn't stop them from killing my other teammates. And then it's just me against multiple cavalry, so I lose. Even if I fight two cavalry I usually lose, and I'm not a bad player. Cavalry boil this game down to luck, the luck being whether or not you have the most cavalry on your team.

The world revolves around cavalry right now. They are frustrating, and even you say they're frustrating. I'm sure you can also admit that it's silly they can jump on roofs, or kill people on steep hills mid-air. They need to be re-worked for more realism and balance.
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