Too many projectiles

[Lanic0r]

For those who say dodging arrows is impossible, I have an advice. Don't zig zag in a pattern. When I see 2h coming my way, zig zaging left-right-left-right, I can only smile, predict his every move and hit him easily. Also, get the feel how long it takes for an archer to draw the bow and shoot (make an archer and get him to reasonable level to get the hang of it or whatever), if you time your zig zaging right, archers will very rarely hit you. Smart 2h when closing the gap, will run straight to me and when he sees me draw the bow, he moves just the second I launch the arrow. It's very very hard to hit him that way.
I feel the biggest problem for ppl is not the gap closing, but once you engage in melee with another melee, you are pretty much sitting duck for any archer that decides to shoot you.

Why you told them the secret?
Dont give nemeth any attention plz:D
The problem is that 2hs are so arogant and wont change their playstyle. Bad luck for you, the rest is developing!

Ok to sum up

1. Wait until archer launch the arrow, then zig-zag
2. Dont jump, otherwise you stuck for 0,5 sec.
3. Wear shields, for nonskilled players wodden shield. ( i know it doesent look fine , maybe chadz should redesign it to make it more beautiful)
4. Watch thorwer´s mode. If he leans backward he will throw his shit! (use your shield)

[Brutal]

It's pretty hard as a thrower to hit an enemy dueling with a teammate, unless you don't care about TK.
You've to get really close and if the enemy is smart he will switch target and go for the thrower who is most of the time easier to kill.

[Sean_Drew]

3. Wear shields, for nonskilled players wodden shield. ( i know it doesent look fine , maybe chadz should redesign it to make it more beautiful)

That´s it.

If there are many projektiles in the air , wear Shield. Even if u have a 2h ! Use the shield to get near archer/thrower , put the shield away and attack. Would u go on a battlefield , with archers on the other side , and just walk around whistle a song ? No ! U would have a Shield , or even 2 !

[The_Newer_Wind]

you can easily dodge arrows and even c-bow bolts unless the archer is VERY close to you. How do you think an archer fights another? It is not who shoots first wins, but constand dodging of the others arrows.

Of course you can dodge arrows if archer is far, but let me ask you this, how do expect to kill a archer? Magically telporting behind them and hitting them, or do you have to walk up to them and hit them? Take a wild guess.

[Malevolent_Warlord]

Get a shield and stop bitching.

If I use my polearm or 2h-character and get shot by an arrow while fighting melee I instantly disengage and pull down my shield and switch to 1h(/2h) weapon and look around if I am too exposed and my overrall position on the field. Most likely I have missed enemy archers and I am their sole target.

Some other people might just blindly continue spamming and die after few arrows, because they want that peasant killed. After they are killed they come to forums and bitch and moan about archers.
Simple fact is that most people lack seriously in survival skills and have no idea of their surroundings.

I see it so often when I play my spearman character. Enemy comes and spamms me and tries to break my shield with a sword. I draw them to my friendlies. Enemy still keeps spamming my shield even though he is getting outnumbered... after few seconds they are dead. Zero skills, zero care for own survival.... dead. Its the same thing with 2h spammers who think they are the shit-elite. They don't pay attention and get killed. 

If u get a shield and pay attention to ur surroundings archers can only kill u if they outnumber and flank u.

[Ronish]

To many projectiles?

Buy a damn shield that has coverage.

Getting flanked by archers?

Why in the hell did your team let that happen, you deserve to die! muahahahaha....

[Punisher]

To many projectiles?

Buy a damn shield that has coverage.

So everyone is forced to screw up their builds with useless shield points just to defend against archers? No other class requires special skill investements just to give you a chance to counter it.

[Ashrik]

If your build makes you die often, I don't see how fixing that is screwing anything up

[Korgoth]

Why don't u whiners just try those classes urself?

No Offence but are you fucking retarded?

How the fuck does this solve the problem which the Original post states?

This just makes the problem worse...

[Gorath]

So everyone is forced to screw up their builds with useless shield points just to defend against friendly archers?

And a telling indication of the views on melee "balance" when 1h/shielder builds are "useless".  Buff 1h/shields imo.  ;)

[Helrekkr]

And a telling indication of the views on melee "balance" when 1h/shielder builds are "useless".  Buff 1h/shields imo.  ;)

You know what he meant;

Shield points are "useless" for a pure 2h build for example. Sure they help with archers, so not completely useless, hence the ""

[Punisher]

For a 2H/Polearms guy shields are useless. I'm obviously not talking about 1H here. For example if I want to put points in shield I have to give up +3 agi gained from conversion (and I'm not saying I need 6 shield skill, if I put even 1 point in shield I don't have enough left to get +3 and increase WM/Ath).

[Joker86]

you can easily dodge arrows and even c-bow bolts unless the archer is VERY close to you. How do you think an archer fights another? It is not who shoots first wins, but constand dodging of the others arrows.

To kill them, I HAVE to get very close to them! I am not doing those roof-to-roof battles over half the map, even though I use a pike. Its reach is still only 245cm.   

For those who say dodging arrows is impossible, I have an advice. Don't zig zag in a pattern. When I see 2h coming my way, zig zaging left-right-left-right, I can only smile, predict his every move and hit him easily. Also, get the feel how long it takes for an archer to draw the bow and shoot (make an archer and get him to reasonable level to get the hang of it or whatever), if you time your zig zaging right, archers will very rarely hit you. Smart 2h when closing the gap, will run straight to me and when he sees me draw the bow, he moves just the second I launch the arrow. It's very very hard to hit him that way.
I feel the biggest problem for ppl is not the gap closing, but once you engage in melee with another melee, you are pretty much sitting duck for any archer that decides to shoot you.

Of course I move randomly, I thought this is understood!

And the "move when he lets loose"-tactic still offers a 33% chance of being hit (when he releases you can either walk left or right or don't change your direction at all). And experienced archers counter this by simply waiting an additional second to release the arrow. Most players doing this tactic will fall for it.

And don't forget most archers take position on elevated places, so even if you don't have to walk up a ladder without shield (suicide) already a small hill slows you down severly.

[StanleyPain]

There's actually a simple solution to this. Having a % allowed of archers and throwers in the teams. Past this %, extra people see their bows/throwing weapons disabled. No need to nerf them more this way, and you won't see half of your team going archer anymore.

And only a small % of cav/2handers/sword and boarders/mothers/fathers/cousins/uncles/your dog....

[Mouse]

An OLD BOARD SHIELD has a requirement of ONE SKILL POINT and will block 200 points of damage with 26x60 coverage for a measly 4.5 weight. That is more than enough to get you where you need to be, at which point you can just drop the shield to let you move faster (and come back for it if needed).

If putting ONE SKILL POINT into shields is going to suddenly ruin your entire build and make it so you suck at the game, then you already suck at the game.