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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2011, 02:31:52 pm »
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2011, 07:32:54 pm »
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It's not that 1h swords need a speed buff, it's that shields do. The game is treating shield users like retards who can't use two arms independently at the same time. This shouldn't be a penalty; it's why 1h/shielders get spammed to death rather than actually gaining this supposed survivability against multiple opponents that everyone keeps bullshitting about.

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2011, 07:37:22 pm »
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As someone who currently plays my shielder most, I have this to say:

This is an incredibly stupid idea because it would take away all semblance of balance from the game. I would rape with this. Over and over again, and so with every other competent shielder.

Over and over.

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2011, 07:40:22 pm »
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It's not that 1h swords need a speed buff, it's that shields do. The game is treating shield users like retards who can't use two arms independently at the same time. This shouldn't be a penalty; it's why 1h/shielders get spammed to death rather than actually gaining this supposed survivability against multiple opponents that everyone keeps bullshitting about.

Also, i feel they should bring parry back (as stun is also responsible for outspamming 1h users). to ping-pong stun back.
As someone who currently plays my shielder most, I have this to say:

This is an incredibly stupid idea because it would take away all semblance of balance from the game. I would rape with this. Over and over again, and so with every other competent shielder.

Over and over.
Which one ? Op ? No, in grand scheme of things it would just bring item variety back as it would not boost Side Sword, but will make other swords competetive (those weapons would be still worse than side sword, but gap would be smaller).

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2011, 08:21:05 pm »
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Your whining worked, the best 2H swords were nerfed, a lot of stupid 1H now have 102 speed (while the katana is the only 1h weapon with 102 speed, the others being far behind). Now stop whining and gtfo.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 08:23:43 pm by Punisher »

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2011, 08:56:47 pm »
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Your whining worked, the best 2H swords were nerfed, a lot of stupid 1H now have 102 speed (while the katana is the only 1h weapon with 102 speed, the others being far behind). Now stop whining and gtfo.

It's not whining you nub. Those swords deserved such speed nerf, possibly even more - see what phyrex do with dannish greatsword, and of course damage nerf.

I didn't asked for boosting swords with 3 attack direction. i asked for boosting those with 4, and 95/94 range.

Katana beats those hands down.
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2011, 09:07:30 pm »
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It's not whining you nub. Those swords deserved such speed nerf, possibly even more - see what phyrex do with dannish greatsword, and of course damage nerf.

I didn't asked for boosting swords with 3 attack direction. i asked for boosting those with 4, and 95/94 range.

Katana beats those hands down.

You are swinging 95 length 1.5 weapons as fast as a katana but you're doing it in one hand. I think we should stop the whine now.

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2011, 09:10:27 pm »
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You are swinging 95 length 1.5 weapons as fast as a katana but you're doing it in one hand. I think we should stop the whine now.

First, slower than Katana. Second, 1.25 not 1.5.

Third, i want to swing using different weapon with same speed as currently, not faster. With 95 reach weapon that is not called side sword.
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2011, 09:15:29 pm »
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Also, i feel they should bring parry back (as stun is also responsible for outspamming 1h users). to ping-pong stun back.Which one ? Op ? No, in grand scheme of things it would just bring item variety back as it would not boost Side Sword, but will make other swords competetive (those weapons would be still worse than side sword, but gap would be smaller).

They're already competitive. All the latter end 1h are fine. If they're not, you're just getting your sense of timing wrong. If they were faster, they'd be attacking with the same rate as a 2-hander, and there'd be absolutely no reason to be a 2-hander.

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2011, 09:26:00 pm »
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They're already competitive. All the latter end 1h are fine. If they're not, you're just getting your sense of timing wrong. If they were faster, they'd be attacking with the same rate as a 2-hander, and there'd be absolutely no reason to be a 2-hander.

Reach and damage. Sound like good reasons. very good reasons.

There is not much choice, and lower tier weapons are nerfed too much. Look at the 2h, you can play with cheap one. In 1h it's suicide.
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2011, 09:29:50 pm »
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2h sweapons should be slower than 1h anyway...just imagine the scale. 2h weapons are larger but faster to swing?! cmon-_-
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 09:32:25 pm by derulx »

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2011, 09:34:55 pm »
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2h sweapons should be slower than 1h anyway...just imagine the scale. 2h weapons are larger but faster to swing?! cmon-_-

two hands are used in process ... :rolleyes: And many of them are not much heavier than 1h. Many bastard swords are within 1h range of weight.
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2011, 09:35:06 pm »
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2h sweapons should be slower than 1h anyway...just imagine the scale. 2h weapons are larger but faster to swing?! cmon-_-

whether thats true or not - from a balance point of view it would be uncool for 2h to have to manual block and be slower than 1h wouldnt it?

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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2011, 09:36:20 pm »
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whether thats true or not - from a balance point of view it would be uncool for 2h to have to manual block and be slower than 1h wouldnt it?
From balance point, those very long swords should be indeed slower. Those are support weapons, not 1 vs 1 weapon.

Beside, they have stun.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 09:40:43 pm by UrLukur »
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Re: Buff 1h swords speed
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2011, 09:38:34 pm »
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and its not that much about the weight, but the length...