NA Rules update

[Gash]

A few admins on the NA Siege Server brought up some re-occurring issues concerning players pushing the limits of the established rules and then arguing with said admins that no rules were written to stop them from abusing ambiguous mechanics.

So here it is :

-Common Sense & Fair Play-
Glitching terrain and walls is forbidden. Use common sense. Floating ladders (ladders that defeat gravity) and abusing such bugs or glitches is against the spirit of fair-play and not tolerated on our servers.

The Rules thread has been updated to include the obvious. 

For those of you who do abuse terrain glitches or other bugged mechanics and think its cute to jump down an admin's throat with your entire clan after he decides to punish one of you; you've been warned. The Forums are there for that - so don't do it in-game.

Take care

[Joxer]

So first you punish guys who dont brake any rules and then after 'update' the rules? Classy.

[Gash]

So first you punish guys who dont brake any rules and then after 'update' the rules? Classy.

I honestly didn't believe that common sense things like glitching through walls needed to be written down. 

As far as i'm concerned, glitching and abusing game mechanics has always been punishable. The admins just wanted something written and clear.

If that's what certain players need to stop gaining unfair advantages over the other team, so be it.

Keep your trolling for someone who cares.

[Ylca]

I've always wondered why you bother arguing with people about administration at all. The funniest part of CRPG is watching NA admins ask permission to admin and explaining themselves to the very disruptive players they are taking action against.

[roymorrison]

What about unbreakable practice shield?  Is this against the rules?

[Tears of Destiny]

What about unbreakable practice shield?  Is this against the rules?

Yes if it is part of the "dented" glitch, no if it is a 13 shield skill.
It is worth noting that regardless of whose server you are playing on and what rules the server has, chadz has made it very clear that on any cRPG server exploiting and deliberately Glitching is against the rules.

[Gash]

What about unbreakable practice shield?  Is this against the rules?

Unbreakable shields?  I was not aware of this to be honest.

Much like the invisible weapons we had a few months back... those who used them were asked to change weapons. Those who refused were removed.

Common sense. If a shield is unbreakable, its probably a bug.  Don't abuse it.

[Tears of Destiny]

Common sense. If a shield is unbreakable, its probably a bug.  Don't abuse it.

Unless of course you have 13 skill, that has been deemed acceptable.

[Cathaoir]

I've always wondered why you bother arguing with people about administration at all. The funniest part of CRPG is watching NA admins ask permission to admin and explaining themselves to the very disruptive players they are taking action against.

Welcome to America, the NA servers.

This is how our entire country is run.

literally in the newspaper yesterday for example,
(Chicago)
377 assaults on officers
23 shots
The article was looking at police brutality and all the excessive force.lmao.

its just like really?
statistics alone show how fucked up it is.
red tape is fucking this country up.

Even hank hill agreed in that episode he couldnt get his liscense fixed,
and he is like THEE American.

you know a democracy is in trouble when you have to disable the polling system, its very foundation. (NA)

[Gash]

Unless of course you have 13 skill, that has been deemed acceptable.

Interesting build.

So you say that a bardiche could not destroy a wooden practice shield if the user has 13 shield skill? 

[Ylca]

Interesting build.

So you say that a bardiche could not destroy a wooden practice shield if the user has 13 shield skill? 

13 skill gives you 104% resistance, meaning nothing can break the shield. I think you end up with incredibly low powerstrike, however so it balances out. The build is like an annoying fly that pokes occasionally (with a polearm I'd assume) doing next to no damage, but causing stun and having stonewall defense.

[Tears of Destiny]

Interesting build.

So you say that a bardiche could not destroy a wooden practice shield if the user has 13 shield skill? 

Yup, I made a STF build with 3/39 1 PS 3 WM 13 SHL and funny enough with 39 AGI you don't need athletics. 13 shield give 8%*13skill=104 damage resistance to the shield.

Use the 105 speed shield and you only have to think about blocking and be invulnerable to those who don't know how to kick or use proper foot work. Use the Nordic Short Sword for main combat or the 114 speed dagger for quick irritating papercuts and you can slowly kill someone via headshots, or more commonly just tie up a great axe user and laugh manically.

Ultimate support build, though avoid everything with crushthrough....

[CtrlAltDe1337]

So first you punish guys who dont brake any rules and then after 'update' the rules? Classy.

The rule has always existed--common sense, not glitching etc.

[Gash]

Unless of course you have 13 skill, that has been deemed acceptable.

Alright, then I'm assuming Roy Morrison was referring to this build.

TearsofDestiny, you say that this has been deemed acceptable... by the dev team as well?  Any links to this issue being raised before?

I think it's kind of silly - but if the dev team doesn't have a problem with this built. Then so be it.

I thought the item itself was invincible, like the certain sword used to be invisible

[Oberyn]

It's because these whining cunts love to set themselves up as some kind of freedom martyrs, at the mercy of the tyrannical admins, when really the only thing they're defending is the right to be selfish tards for whom the personal enjoyment of the game (regardless of rules) supersedes anyone else's.
I don't think it has anything to do with NA in particular, this type of thing happens in EU all the time, our admins might be less willing to deal with such bullshit though, maybe because they're considered "official" as opposed to NA servers who were clan admin'd for a long time.