Balancing Long Espada Eslavona and Side sword.

[El_Infante]

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Long Espada Eslavona and Side sword, are two top-tier one-handers swords that need to be balanced. Both items have a high pierce dmg and a low cut dmg. I suggest that new stats:

Long Espada Eslavona
Weapon length: 103
Weight: 1.3
Difficulty: 12
Speed rating: 99
Weapon Length: 103
Thrust damage: 26 pierce (-2)
Swing damage: 29 cut (+2)
Slots: 1

Side sword
Weapon length: 95
Weight: 1.3
Difficulty: 12
Speed rating: 100 / 101? (There are a lot of 1h sword with NICE cut dmg with similar reach/speed, like scimitar, liuyedao, niuewidao)
Weapon Length: 95
Thrust damage: 25 pierce (-2)
Swing damage: 29 cut (+2)
Slots: 1

[Patricia]

Wow, you're smoking some good shit.

[Bobthehero]

Wow, you're smoking some good shit.

+1 They're perfect, dont fuck with them.

[Cyclopsided]

Yeah, take away the identity and variability of these thrusting swords.

[Digglez]

1h thrusts are probably the least dangerous, they're telegraphed like a mile away and take forever, not to mention have a good chance of glancing anyhow and letting you have a free shot on user

[Bobthehero]

Yeah... no, that means you are doing it wrong.

[El_Infante]

1h thrusts are probably the least dangerous, they're telegraphed like a mile away and take forever, not to mention have a good chance of glancing anyhow and letting you have a free shot on user

+1 You know what you're talking about. I notice some brainless ppl that seems they didn't play a shielder before.

Yeah, take away the identity and variability of these thrusting swords.

Take a look at german greatsword (pierce 2h) and it's pierce dmg value. Then, post. If Eslavona and Side sword were as good as you think, you will see players playing with it. Did you see someone playing with sidesword postpatch? I didn't. Did you see ppl playing with Long Eslavona? A few; A few that after using it, changed to other 1h swords like: Elite scimitar, niuweidao, knightly, NCS... So, something happen when no one uses it.

27cut damage for a toptier 1h weapon is a ridiculous value.

[Paul]

Using a 1h thrusting sword takes some player skill. However in the right hands it's fun and deadly.

[El_Infante]

Using a 1h thrusting sword takes some player skill. However in the right hands it's fun and deadly.

I agree Paul. Stabbing with 1h swords is not an easy task. But lets take a look at this values.

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We have three priceless weapons that have the same/more cut dmg value than a "Espada Eslavona". Don't you think is a ridiculous cut dmg value for an another toptier 1h sword? Give that swords the chance of doing something different. If you're forced to stab everyone with that cut dmg, something happen. No one use it.

[Paul]

nope

[rustyspoon]

Using a 1h thrusting sword takes some player skill. However in the right hands it's fun and deadly.

^this

[[ptx]]

Long espada is a stabbing sword, why do you want to make it the same as other swords? Noone forces you to use the most expensive 1hander, use a scottish sword or a long arming sword, if you don't like it :/

[Osiris]

1h thrust is one of the most deadly attacks ive lost count of the ammount of people ive killed with the NCS thrust no one expects it when your moving or turning

[Bobthehero]

Especially not a piss poor stab like the NCS one.

[Osiris]

indeed when people see the espada they dontblock alot