Stupid word of the month: chamber

[22nd_King_Plazek]

Apparantly not.

[Seawied]

just illustrates another incorrect use of terms.  weapons dont 'block' they parry.

A successful parry and counterattack is what a Riposte is, not 'chamber'

Here is the etymology of the words 'chamber' and 'block' in warband.

Back in beta, there was such a thing called a "parry" where a player would briefly tap his right mouse button for a split second, just enough to catch the attack. The end result was the attacker suffered a longer stun. This feature was quickly removed due to buggyness, but people still referenced to this parry feature as "the parry" and the current style of blocking an incoming attack, as a "block."

The block bit makes sense, due to the fact that you are physically stopping the opponent's weapon from continuing and are not redirecting the attack like a parry. This is not historical, as doing such a move in real-life would be incredibly strength intensive.

"Chamber" was used as an analogy of reading an attack, like putting a bullet in a gun's chamber. "Chamber" became short-hand/slang for the animation of reading/preparing an attack. "Chambering" is NOT a riposte, and that word would be inaccurate. Technically a chamber-block is the simple act of stopping your opponent's attack, and you can, in fact, hold the attack and not perform a counter-attack.

If you want to be technical, any attack after a successful block would be a riposte in the M&B world, because of its simplified game dynamics.

[Panoply]

OP is mostly correct, but it's pointless to try and change it. You know what is meant, and that's all that's needed for communication.

When people same "chamber", they're actually just shortening "chamber blocking", which is descriptive at least. After chamber blocking, one need not carry on with the attack, and can cancel it or hold it, so the phenomenon is not entirely analogous to a riposte. Chamber blocking as a term makes sense to describe this mechanic.

Across disciplines, the term "chamber" usually means to prepare an attack, you can chamber a bullet, chamber a punch or kick, or chamber a sword swing. So yes, there is ambiguity in using the work chamber to describe the mechanic of chamber blocking rather than preparing an attack, but it is rare for the latter meaning to enter any mount and blade discussion, and when someone says chamber, it is commonly assumed to mean the former.

[panderson]

The OP should also concentrate on using the correct terms in his own post.

He claims that a word is stupid.  A word has no intelligence of its own, and hence, cannot itself be stupid.  It would be the person using the word that would be stupid.

This is a perfect illustration of why it doesn't matter at all.  The word chamber is used colloquially in CRPG to describe a certain action.  That is all.

[Tears of Destiny]

After reading this thread I am suddenly reminded why I picked up a pair of engineering degrees instead of an english degree or literature or some other overly complicated tool of the devil that exists purely so old men in tweed suits can argue to one another how to properly use an antiquated word or rail against how a word is evolving or how to properly cite a source or other such mind numbingly complex things that are somehow more complicated then z-pinch fusion...

I think this man right here had the right idea:

I am the King of Rome, and above grammar ~ Emperor Sigismund

[Thucydides]

After reading this thread I am suddenly reminded why I picked up a pair of engineering degrees instead of an english degree or literature or some other overly complicated tool of the devil that exists purely so old men in tweed suits can argue to one another how to properly use an antiquated word or rail against how a word is evolving or how to properly cite a source or other such mind numbingly complex things that are somehow more complicated then z-pinch fusion...

I think this man right here had the right idea:

I am the King of Rome, and above grammar ~ Emperor Sigismund

English is intended to be communicated, quickly.

[SeQuel]

Digglez is just a troll, ignore him.

[Digglez]

Digglez is just a troll, ignore him.

Actually I'm more of an ogre or undead (ghoul or wight)
perhaps even a half-orc

[Qilidj_Arslan]

Anyway, modern fencing is awesome.

[duurrr]

Actually I'm more of an ogre or undead (ghoul or wight)
perhaps even a half-orc

god awful

[Seawied]

After reading this thread I am suddenly reminded why I picked up a pair of engineering degrees instead of an english degree or literature or some other overly complicated tool of the devil that exists purely so old men in tweed suits can argue to one another how to properly use an antiquated word or rail against how a word is evolving or how to properly cite a source or other such mind numbingly complex things that are somehow more complicated then z-pinch fusion...

I think this man right here had the right idea:

I am the King of Rome, and above grammar ~ Emperor Sigismund

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[Digglez]

Anyway, modern fencing is awesome.

I fenced for 6 months and saber fencing was by far the most entertaining.

[Kafein]

I was an English major once. Unfortunately, the experience is far worse than you depicted.

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Actually, chamber = short for chamberblocking so yeah it means what chamberblocking means. In Warband nobody refers to actions stopping attacks as parries, they are called blocks. It's only logical we refer to an action stopping an attack while chambering an attack is called chamberblock.

[Gorath]

The day warband has a proper animation for the action is the day I start refering to using the RMB as a "Parry".  Until that day I will continue to refer to holding your weapon completely rigid and stopping the opponents swing in the same manner as a wall stops a runaway skateboarder as "blocking".

*Because of the aforementioned issue the act of cancelling your opponents attack by readying your own attack, or "chambering" your swing, is the reason I will continue to use the term "chamberblocking" and furthermore abreviate it as "chambering" completely without any remorse as it applies to the english language.*

TLDR:  GFYS.

[Yachdiel]

The word originates from the game manual, to chamber is to pull back a hit like chambering a bullet. And when the act of pulling back your hit causes you to parry it was referred to as a chamber block, so the term stuck simply with chamber- Chambering actually just means to pull back a swing.

Also I'm pretty sure in one of the earlier versions of Warband Native, you could hit someones hit and they would cancel and that was referred to as a parry but it was removed.