Why do we even need upkeep anymore?

[Gozer the Carpathian]

why take such a extreme light armor? It´s in no realtion what you use with your heavy armor. Just take something in the 38 - 42 body armor range (like mail shirt or light kuyak) and you still be fine with money. Steppe armor really is a peasant "armor", maybe some archers / HA use it for the looks/theme, but as infantry you don´t want to use that, way too light.

Well only using it until I get the money to buy what Leshma suggested.  Looking at selling my old armor to try and swap out quicker.  (I'm at work right now so just using the website. )

[TurmoilTom]

Upgrading to the Byrnie or Byrnia would be a good alternative to the cloth and leather armors. Not much more expensive, but considerably more armor. I personally wear Khergit Lamellar and carry a Longsword and Bamboo Spear and I rake in the gold.

[Leshma]

Use marketplace when selling items. Do not sell them to site directly because you'll lose a lot of money that way. Sell your items for 10-20% less than their store price.

Also you don't need boots with that much protection, unless you'll be using Sarranid Guard armor (best gold/armor value of all body pieces). For armor I recommended 500 gold boots are more than enough. You should invest in head armor or if you're having no issues on that part you can even go a little bit lower. Those hats with aventail go well with narfs brigandines (red/blue/green brigandine over mail).

Even with Zita Bascinet your gear will cost less than your current setup but it will give you better head protection. Use Long Bardiche (bad thrust damage, everything else great) and you'll be around 2k in upkeep while having better protection. You should be able to stay positive with 2k worth of upkeep.

[Lichen]

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Okay I'll run around with this until I retire then. 

This is what I swap to when I'm losing money anyway so hopefully with some tweaks I'll be fine.

Why don't you sell your german poleaxe and use the money to buy a hafted blade.

[Leshma]

Why don't you sell your german poleaxe and use the money to buy a hafted blade.

Long Bardiche is a lot better choice. Keep in mind that he's using regular weapons, not MW.

36 cut damage is quite low and hafted blade isn't really long. Yeah, he can spam it in theory but these days only true noobs can be spammed. Better use high damage but slower weapon.

[Grumbs]

Gozer let me give a few tips. I don't want a new player to leave just because he gets a bad impression or doesn't have all the info at his disposal.

Leshma has pretty decent advice btw (so check that if you didn't)

Elite Druzina is heavy for its modest armour unloomed. The thing about armour is its only ever 50-100% of its shown value when it comes to determining damage resistance. Theres a tonne of RNG applied (literally 50-100% of its armour), so take your armour with a pinch of salt. You want manoeuvrability, affordability and "good enough" protection. If you want to survive hits then get more HP, with str or IF, and have a decent enough armour rating

To me when it comes to unloomed armour, Sarranid Guard armour is pretty good when you want to max your armour. You got good body armour (46), decent weight and only costs 8500. When you want to go cheap then Byrni is pretty good for cost/armour

For gloves I would get some light loomed gloves asap. But for now scale/whisby/mail is fine. If you are counting the pennies then you don't want to waste money here, although they have some of the best armour/weight ratios compared to body armours.

For weapons German Poleaxe is a good alrounder, but you can specialise and do better in one role or another. Specialising allows you to get good at one type of attack or another, one role or another while costing less on repairs. You have a good stab, good swing, OK range and its shield breaker. For all that you got one of the most expensive polearms in the game, but 90% of the time you won't need all those bonuses. If you want to break shields, then get a cheaper shield breaker like long bardiche or long war axe etc. If you want to stab or stop horses then get an awlpike, bamboo spear (or one of the other spear types). If you want to swing then get glaive or long hafted blade, or military scythe. In most situations as a new player you won't justify the extra cost of using a poleaxe imo. Most of the polearms have their uses, and there are cheaper yet still decent alternatives to the expensive stuff. Just find a niche and play to your strengths during the round, and save money while learning the game

[Gozer the Carpathian]

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Okay this is the best I'm going to get (still have my German Poleaxe didn't have to sell it. ) here at work with no in game feedback.

Thanks for the feedback guys lets see how much better this works as I should be faster (as I'm lighter) and less maintenance with still that pole arm swinging action I'm used to. 

[Leshma]

That should work just fine.

But next time, don't be impatient. Make offers for regular items you want to sell and advertise them in this thread.

Also, to show you that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to cRPG economy and to brag a little bit:

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Edit:

Advice for level 30 build:

18/21 (8 converted skill points) 6 IF 6 PS 7 ATH 4 WM

or

18/21 (8 converted skill points) 6 IF 6 PS 7 ATH 4 Shield

[Gozer the Carpathian]

HOLY CRAP guys! 

Thanks for the great info gang.  Yeah if/when I sell the German Poleaxe I'll use that thread. 

[Arjay]

Upkeep is an unbalanced system in the fact that it only prevent NEW players from using good items since all the veterans have enough money that they can use whatever they want without any consequences.  Quite a broken mechanic just like half the other mechanics in this game.

[Leshma]

I wholeheartedly agree. Best would be to give new chars 50k which can't be transferred or turned into items then transferred. That way, new players will be able to buy anything they want for start and have a little gold on the side.

Upkeep should be changed so it's function of player performance (score based). If you use better items you perform better but get just enough gold to have your upkeep expenses covered. If you play in rags you shouldn't be able to earn too much gold, which is now the case.

That way gold will regain it's value and heirloom selling business to upkeep expensive gear will be dead because heirlooms will cost a lot less. This won't just benefit new players, but also players like me who played smart for over two years. Of course those who didn't care won't like it, it's perfectly normal.

[Lichen]

Upkeep is an unbalanced system in the fact that it only prevent NEW players from using good items since all the veterans have enough money that they can use whatever they want without any consequences. 

There are plenty of cheap 'good' items.

[Gozer the Carpathian]

Well that went poorly. 

Even with a 3X bonus for much of the time I ended up losing money with that rig.  Switched to my leather armor set-up to break even.

Though I only played for 20 mins will keep trying!

[Turkhammer]

Well that went poorly. 

Even with a 3X bonus for much of the time I ended up losing money with that rig.  Switched to my leather armor set-up to break even.

Though I only played for 20 mins will keep trying!

Quit on 1x or play naked.  Stay on 5x until bladder breaks or you die of thirst.  Much money.

[HarunYahya]

Are we playing the same game? I feel like I play this game religiously and it takes at least a month for me to retire.

Well i retired yesterday and now im level 26 but probably we are not playing the same game because i do play and participate Strategus actively aswell.
It helps a lot . I mean A LOT !