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Lower upkeep on horses?

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Offline Wookimonsta

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Lower upkeep on horses
« on: July 18, 2011, 03:57:24 pm »
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I know this is blatant lobbyism (sp?) since I am a cav, but i dont get why horses are so expensive.
Lancers got nurfed 3-fold.
First, the horses got less speed and maneuver.
Secondly, the lance only has 40 degree turn.
Thirdly, the lance speed got increased, now if I understand it correctly, the slower a weapon the more the speed bonus, and speed bonus is a lancers bread and butter.
With all these nerfs, my repair from a courser has gone from about 800-900 to 1400. I know its supposed to break less, but 1.4k is a shitload of money, thats at least 6 rounds of x5 (with nothing breaking) for a medium tier horse. If this was a top tier horse, i'd understand, but for a courser that is alot of money.
At the same time, lances got alot more expensive too, despite them being heavily nerfed.
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 05:08:44 pm »
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lower upkeep?
How about horses need feed per day and that costs anything ;)
you know like a flat rate!

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 05:17:41 pm »
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lower upkeep?
How about horses need feed per day and that costs anything ;)
you know like a flat rate!
all instruments of war need taking care of
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 05:34:26 pm »
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Wheres the problem with upkeep?
I see more the problem that cav want good horse + heavy armor + expensive weapon while on ground.
Sry can't have the lollipop with all flavours..well you can afford that already roughly.

Or do you want to be able to afford metal horse + heavy armor etc?

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 05:36:19 pm »
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@Wulzzz: I don't think he even is talking about the nonsense you are telling us. I think he meant low-medium armour and a light horse setup now even drains cash quickly.

I'd say if this happens, light horses only get a sligh reduction, while heavy horses should receive the biggest, to bring some much needed variety in the game. (Nerfing doesn't help to stimulate that at all!)
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 07:28:40 pm »
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heavy horses should get a bit cheaper, so you can use them with a shield, sword and 6k armor. now that isn't possible
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 07:54:08 pm »
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There is a problem when I (an HA, arguably the cheapest cavalry build) lose money on anything but a x5. My courser wipes out over 1000 gold every time it's repaired. I need a x5 + a significant length of round time to make money on that. Mind you the arrow repair factor doesn't help. But even a x5 on rounds that only last 2 mins (frequent on the EU servers), doesn't generate any where near enough to make up for the repair costs. I've been bleeding money (from 40000 to 15000) since the patch came out. And that's only playing about 6 hours of crpg since it did.

My equipment:

Spirited Courser
MW Hornbow
3 sets Bodkins (expensive these days I know, but worth it)
Steppe armour
Nomad boots
Leather gloves

You nerfed cav slightly, at least reduce the cost of maintaining that build to make up for it.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 07:59:39 pm by Overdriven »

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 08:50:42 pm »
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There is a problem when I (an HA, arguably the cheapest cavalry build) lose money on anything but a x5. My courser wipes out over 1000 gold every time it's repaired. I need a x5 + a significant length of round time to make money on that. Mind you the arrow repair factor doesn't help. But even a x5 on rounds that only last 2 mins (frequent on the EU servers), doesn't generate any where near enough to make up for the repair costs. I've been bleeding money (from 40000 to 15000) since the patch came out. And that's only playing about 6 hours of crpg since it did.

My equipment:

Spirited Courser
MW Hornbow
3 sets Bodkins (expensive these days I know, but worth it)
Steppe armour
Nomad boots
Leather gloves

You nerfed cav slightly, at least reduce the cost of maintaining that build to make up for it.
how much does the site say you wear qau costs(without the extra loom value)?
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 09:26:06 pm »
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68000  :( It loses 15000 when I go from bodkins to arrows. Bloody bodkin cost is dumb.

Still...HA used to be the cheapest cav build.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 09:29:49 pm by Overdriven »

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 09:55:16 pm »
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Wulz, your off course, this isnt about not being able to go full plated. this is about not getting raped by upkeep even with a very simple gear.

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 10:47:42 pm »
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+1, it pure bullshit that a courser can bankrupt you in a hour.
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 08:13:56 pm »
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My support is fully behind this, and I'm a pure infantry player. There is never enough calvary in battle servers (at least in the NA ones i play in) and that is because of the ridiculus upkeep for the horses. The upkeep should be high enough to prevent people from going heavy armored on a charger or warhorse, but not to the point where people are going bankrupt with light calvary and light gear.
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 09:27:38 pm »
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Vote NO

My char is 1H cav  (Champion Cataphract Horse ) 55000-70000 equipment  and no problems with the new  upkeep

Stop whining about little girli ponys like arabian or courser ..

1.4k for a  top score class  is ridiculous

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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 09:47:02 pm »
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Same voted NO too the power my 1h/cav alt has once he mounts that horse more than makes up for the cost the same goes for my HA.

Seams retarded footmen should have to pay shitload for decent armor and gear if people can ride war pony´s for low upkeep.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 09:55:10 pm by Tzar »
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Re: Lower upkeep on horses
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 09:53:21 pm »
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Vote NO

My char is 1H cav  (Champion Cataphract Horse ) 55000-70000 equipment  and no problems with the new  upkeep

Stop whining about little girli ponys like arabian or courser ..

1.4k for a  top score class  is ridiculous

Well you're either losing shit loads of money...and so have lots in reserve. Or are just incredibly lucky with multipliers. Apparently you can only sustain 48000 equipment and break even if you have a win/loss streak of 50-50 on the servers. And unless you are lucky, or play small servers and drag the game out. Then you are just trolling.

And considering your horse lancer nerf thread...you are probably just a troll.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2011, 09:59:57 pm by Overdriven »