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Offline Gortha

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Shields got nerfed way too much....
« on: July 11, 2011, 11:08:13 pm »
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Not that they break very fast,
the main Problem is, that even a Guy who is 45 Degree in Front of u can pass your Shield at your sides...
With a Huscarls... thats rediculous. A Manual Block still blocks every Hit from the direction the Hit comes...

More love for Shielders pls.

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 11:11:47 pm »
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I wasn't aware they changed anything to shields.

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 11:11:53 pm »
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l2p

and I'm saying that as a shielder main.

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 11:27:49 pm »
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a Guy who is 45 Degree in Front of u can pass your Shield at your sides...

Watch your facing.

A Manual Block still blocks every Hit from the direction the Hit comes...

Nope. Not if you're turned slightly too far.

I main 1H & shield. They are perfectly fine. In my opinion easy-mode blocking is good enough as it is. Giving 180 degrees of coverage would just make it ridiculous.
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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 12:47:15 am »
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The time to Block also got nerfed.
My Huscals is raising much slower. Also the recovertime is bad.
Also Arrows Passing like there is no shield...

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 12:56:28 am »
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The time to Block also got nerfed.
My Huscals is raising much slower. Also the recovertime is bad.
Also Arrows Passing like there is no shield...

The raising and lowering of shields has absolutely nothing to do with whether a shield blocks or not. When your shield actually "blocks" depends on the shield speed. Some shields block before the shield is fully raised some block after it is fully raised. The Huscarl is VERY slow. If your shield skill is too low, you may run into problems.

The forcefield of shields got nerfed a LONG time ago and rightly so. Shields being an arrow magnet was always dumb. Instead of your shield grabbing every arrow around you you need to point it at the archer and raise or lower it depending on whether they are going for your head or feet. Easy enough.
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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 01:02:48 am »
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The forcefield of shields got nerfed a LONG time ago and rightly so. Shields being an arrow magnet was always dumb. Instead of your shield grabbing every arrow around you you need to point it at the archer and raise or lower it depending on whether they are going for your head or feet. Easy enough.

Although it sounds reasonable, this makes a shield useless against anything + an archer. Furthermore, in some cases arrows go through the shield because the coverage is smaller than the model. Having a shield already means being superslow and thus easily killed by shieldless melee, it should offer some real protection against projectiles.


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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 01:05:10 am »
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cant say ive noticed any diff from this patch in regards to my shield.

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 01:19:52 am »
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Sorry I'm convinced that 1h shield is the best class in game.  If you are getting hit by melee you either need to buy a shield with faster shield speed, put more skill points into shield, or (most likely) work on positioning a bit more. 

Besides I don't think shield 'block range' got nerfed at all... I did notice some shields got lower shield speed, but meh.
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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 01:20:39 am »
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cant say ive noticed any diff from this patch in regards to my shield.
because the patch didn't touch shields at all except for slot usage.
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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 02:15:27 am »
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because the patch didn't touch shields at all except for slot usage.

Exactly. All of this is old news. Happened a LONG time ago. Shielders are fine. Move along.
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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 02:29:05 am »
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can't use my heavy kite shield on horse w/ heavy lance and italian sword because it's two slots.
First they nerf shields so hoplites cant bring a sword, now even lancers can't have a shield?  :|

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 02:34:48 am »
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You can have a shield, there is many 1slot shields. But you canĀ“t have the best one, you have to make choice, working as intended, this is the hybridslot law...

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 03:07:51 am »
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Watch your facing.

Nope. Not if you're turned slightly too far.

I main 1H & shield. They are perfectly fine. In my opinion easy-mode blocking is good enough as it is. Giving 180 degrees of coverage would just make it ridiculous.

Naa, it is not. You got hits from weird angles, which should have been blocked.

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Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 03:45:52 am »
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Naa, it is not. You got hits from weird angles, which should have been blocked.

Could be lag, or the aforementioned shield speed. Also it depends on the shield. From what I've heard, for blocking is based on the actual shield model.
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