this patch is awful

[SirDuncan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Xp56uVyxs
Longbow VS Plate,
Just sayin.

[Kafein]

I might have went off a bit stronger than I originally intended for the topic, but yes, I understand and agree with what you've just said.

Besides, I'm not going to get into a fight that doesn't belong to me, I don't even play HAs.

Then I found maybe the only person that is not an HA and is supportive to them x)

The problem with HA is that they can't be balanced. They are not like all the other classes. In a melee vs melee fight, if you die, it's your fault. In a melee vs range, it's usually not your fault but meh you could have dodged all the shit and reached the ranger. In a melee or cav vs HA, there's no way the melee can win. The melee can be the best player around, the HA will survive if he wants to. IMO this class is completly broken because it has both range and mobility. And devs can't really fix that with stat tweaks. The HA skill nerf was a step in the right direction though.

[Torben]

Then I found maybe the only person that is not an HA and is supportive to them x)

The problem with HA is that they can't be balanced. They are not like all the other classes. In a melee vs melee fight, if you die, it's your fault. In a melee vs range, it's usually not your fault but meh you could have dodged all the shit and reached the ranger. In a melee or cav vs HA, there's no way the melee can win. The melee can be the best player around, the HA will survive if he wants to. IMO this class is completly broken because it has both range and mobility. And devs can't really fix that with stat tweaks. The HA skill nerf was a step in the right direction though.

dude,  its called teamwork.  fuck,  if you need 3 lancers to kill one jackie,  it only makes shit alot more interessting.

[Cepeshi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Xp56uVyxs
Longbow VS Plate,
Just sayin.

what does this have to do with anything related to the game? I am tired of this vid being presented pretty much everytime someone mentions bullshit dmg on archery, even WHEN DEV CONFIRMED ITS BUGGED

[Kafein]

dude,  its called teamwork.  fuck,  if you need 3 lancers to kill one jackie,  it only makes shit alot more interessting.

Ok, and how are 3 lancers supposed to kill jackie, wulz and tuonela ?

[Gnjus]

Ok, and how are 3 lancers supposed to kill jackie, wulz and tuonela ?

They call for like 20 meatshields to disctract the horse scumchers while they try to backstabb 'em.

[Torben]

i rly never had problems with ha.  if they won the round,  props.  if i could get them while they were distracted,  even cooler.

but i must give ya one thing:  wulz never delayed.  often was the last one and than just charged barehandedly. that was a nice move which i did miss on ther HA

[Chagan_Arslan]

Okay, at level 50, HA are like Kassai Lajos. Happy ?

This is a game. There are two things called balance and fun which are more important than realism.

lollancing is unrealistic

- Kafein

[Torben]

They call for like 20 meatshields to disctract the horse scumchers while they try to backstabb 'em.

yeeeeeeeeesno.

usually a couched lance would dehorse them and than meh

[Cepeshi]

yeeeeeeeeesno.

usually a couched lance would dehorse them and than meh

gl with that as they can cover like 180 degree from the horseback and shoot horses down in two arrows  and yeah, played cav, been there, tried that just my horse was getting raped by HA all the freaking time

[Gnjus]

usually a couched lance would dehorse them and than meh

You think of yourself too much, Torben. Your horse goes down same as the rest of 'em, unless you take an armored one in which case you'll never catch the HA. 

There are exception for sure but that's all they are: exceptions. 

[Torben]

gl with that as they can cover like 180 degree from the horseback and shoot horses down in two arrows  and yeah, played cav, been there, tried that just my horse was getting raped by HA all the freaking time

hitn run usually works.  why do u think did i get a courser ^^

[Torben]

You think of yourself too much, Torben. Your horse goes down same as the rest of 'em, unless you take an armored one in which case you'll never catch the HA. 

There are exception for sure but that's all they are: exceptions. 

cant talk for the new patch,  just saying what used to happen.  and why i didnt hate HA

[Cepeshi]

hitn run usually works.  why do u think did i get a courser ^^

tried with courser aswell, but i dont remember to which side of their horse the HA can turn, so i always arrived in their fire angle

[Dutchydave]

This patch has just made it harder for new players like myself,if this was the latest patch when i 1st started playing i think i would of just thrown it in the bin.The new upkeep is a joke and im sure this patch will just scare new players off which will mean the begining of the death of this game.I really liked this game before the patch and now i think it sucks ass big time