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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2012, 01:17:46 am »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #106 on: November 02, 2012, 03:11:50 pm »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #107 on: November 02, 2012, 03:18:20 pm »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #108 on: November 02, 2012, 07:14:23 pm »
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So give archers some sort of respecc so that they can adapt to this change. I think it will be a good change as it makes them unable to kite but makes them hit harder. IMO it sounds like a good fix for kiting but apparently people hate it :o People leaving the game because they can pewpew anymore are crazy and imo playing for all the wrong reasons, well i can understand if you are level 33 or 34 and your build is totally ruined, but devs will probably fix that sooner or later.

I love this patch, less archers is always a good thing in my book, but it also seems that there are more xbows hmm..
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #109 on: November 02, 2012, 08:09:52 pm »
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I mean.. shouldn't be THAT many archers over lvl 33.

Perhaps one could make an application-type thing, where 33+ archers could apply for a respec. It would be some manual work on part of Meow?, but not insurmountable work.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #110 on: November 02, 2012, 08:13:50 pm »
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I mean.. shouldn't be THAT many archers over lvl 33.

Perhaps one could make an application-type thing, where 33+ archers could apply for a respec. It would be some manual work on part of Meow?, but not insurmountable work.

Or maybe everyone should just be a bit patient. The "ath reduces wpf" seems to get reverted in the next patch.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #111 on: November 02, 2012, 08:22:24 pm »
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #112 on: November 02, 2012, 08:37:32 pm »
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I recently went back to settle on longbow archer too.  After 2 respecs (at a low level, thankfully), I've settled on still giving myself athletics and a balanced build, hoping the dust from the min/max focus will settle and appropriate fixes will be made.  We have heard that the athletics nerf will be reverted next patch.  A lot of people are left sitting around with less motivation to play, and people are demanding respecs, which is understandable.

I'm with you though man.  Mostly infantry and cav.  After 9+ gens of english bill, I praised the spin nerf because it made perfect sense.  Whether they affected us negatively or not they made sense.  I'm right there with you on this one though.  Athletics is already an investment.  You're trading power for speed. 

Like that chinese player so eloquently put it, "Strongbow archers to attack the premise and running archers guarantee of life. The archers to abandon the heavy armor, to give up the melee weapons.  Now have to give up running, that Archer what is left? Balance of the game, not by weakening a career that can be achieved."

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Its refreshing to see strength archer builds be considered viable.  24-39 strength archers should have a place, as the only problem before was the power draw penalty was too high to warrant it.  Increased draw time and missile speed is an excellent motivation to play strength and be less mobile, on top of the added damage.  Just removing the wpf penalty on PD entirely would fix it, leaving athletics out of the picture.
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #113 on: November 02, 2012, 09:38:30 pm »
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As a first gen Long Spear (former Pike, if some of you remember) user, I had to adjust my build countless times due to changes and I don't feel any pity for archers. I even had to quit the Long Spear, because I didn't have any fun with it anymore.

I do think that Hybrids, such as the build in the first post, should be still viable. Just because they are very rare and somewhat unique.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #114 on: November 02, 2012, 10:08:29 pm »
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As a first gen Long Spear (former Pike, if some of you remember) user, I had to adjust my build countless times due to changes and I don't feel any pity for archers. I even had to quit the Long Spear, because I didn't have any fun with it anymore.

I do think that Hybrids, such as the build in the first post, should be still viable. Just because they are very rare and somewhat unique.

Since it's rumored that the athletics lower archery WPF will be reverted in the next patch, this is a moot point really....BUT...

They never changed anything that would have affected your ability to pickup a long spear and use it.  They fucked over some archer builds with this athletics lowers WPF update, who already had "final builds" in place.  They couldn't just adapt because they could no longer use their weapon, they had to respec (and if they were smart/lucky, they held out hope for a revert of the nerf, or a free respec).

That would be like PT having no penalty to your throwing WPF, and then in a patch they implement the throwing penalty to WPF based on PT.  People haven't built their characters to adapt for this, so it's pretty unreasonable to expect people who've been playing the game for 2 years (and potentially leveling up 1 character that whole time) to just bite the bullet.  Unless you want to alienate your most loyal players, but I'm guessing that the dev's never intended to do so.

Just really makes me question how the balance process happens, is there any brainstorming as to potential consequences to massive gameplay changes such as the athletics lowers archery WPF?  Just gotta scratch my head and wonder.  And like I've said, maybe that is a good solution for kiting archers (which I don't even think is a problem), but if so, you should probably allow a respec for archer builds, or people over a certain level, etc.  Be reasonable is really all that the players are asking. 
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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #115 on: November 02, 2012, 10:11:42 pm »
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Pretty sure it was said on irc yesterday that this whole ath thing was gonna be removed next patch and there will be a different approach to the whole kiting thing.
So do not respec.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #116 on: November 02, 2012, 10:16:48 pm »
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Pretty sure it was said on irc yesterday that this whole ath thing was gonna be removed next patch and there will be a different approach to the whole kiting thing.
So do not respec.

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Re: Uninstall time?
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2012, 02:44:38 pm »
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No one believes me.  :lol: Glad you're putting paw power behind it.
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