Uninstall time?

[Thomek]

Bring in ideas in stead of whining. Archery was botched, with only 1 clearly superior build and bow.

They were also extremely hard hitting. I would always get 2 shot with my MW lamellar. Basically dealing more damage on average than my MW katana at 40c 6ps then. Perhaps making ATH give wpf penalty was not right, IDK.

Imo they could have just rised STR requirements for some bows+meddled with their weight, and reworked the internal bow stats so they all would have their niche. That way, a hard hitting archer would be slow, but one could also make a kiting one doing a bit less damage.

In any case. Don't cry yet, it is too soon. I have a feeling we will see further changes still. Make an STF and play with that in the mean time

I also hope they will give out respecs, or at least flood the market training lessons.

[justme]

good.. cy guys..

[Rebelyell]

hmmm retire or not to retire......
i am 2h but still

[Pejlaen]

I don't think it matters what they do to Archery (although i'm glad kiting got hit with the nerfhammer), people will still hate the element of being shot. And it doesnt matter how hard the shot was, or what build the archer have, how hard it was for him, as long as you're successful as an archer mostly alot of people will just hate you for it. That's imo one of the most tiresome things to deal with if you play as an archer. So fuck it, if it reduces the QQ over archers, you have my personnal blessing to nerf away -.-

[Vodner]

Bring in ideas in stead of whining.

I still think the idea of reducing the sprint speed of players holding a bow (sheathed or unsheathed) is a solid one. Sprint speed is rarely a factor in melee combat, so hybrids would still be able to defend themselves.

I also wish that all melee hits did a minimum of ~10 damage, before sweet spot penalties and speed bonuses (but after armor calculations, which I realise is opposite the order in which things are calculated now). A 0-3 PS build could still glance with a sloppy hit, but solid hits would deal some damage regardless of armor. An archer with a hammer would be at a severe disadvantage versus any dedicated melee build, but the situation wouldn't be as hopeless as it is now.

[LordBerenger]

Nerf Lancers to oblivion - Check

Nerf Archers to oblivion - Check



Lets all mass-respec HX one last time before finally, 'for realz' moving on.

[cmp]

I still think the idea of reducing the sprint speed of players holding a bow (sheathed or unsheathed) is a solid one. Sprint speed is rarely a factor in melee combat, so hybrids would still be able to defend themselves.

I agree. Too bad it can't be modded.

[Kafein]

What can be done with the sprint ? Can it be modded out completely ? Can it influence turn speed ? I always felt we are able to turn much faster when sprinting than humanly possible.

[TugBoat]

I had just traded for a bow and arrows and then this happens. So much harder to be accurate with max WPF in it

[Pentecost]

I agree. Too bad it can't be modded.

Doesn't something like what Saul suggested already exist in the form of the movement speed penalty you take when you bring more than 1 shield? Or does that work differently?

[Apsod]

Or, how about removing leveling and looms and giving everyone a level 30 build that they are allowed to respec at whatever time they want.

Screw looms, screw levels, screw grinding. Just keep the persistent character.

So basically native with custom equipment and skills - AKA Mercenaries.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

I'm sorry but I just can't understand people that spend two their two years in the best medieval melee combat game ever created as an archer. They are just squandering the awesome gameplay mechanics that this game has. It's like spending all your time bowling while playing GTA IV.

I have never and will never try archery for a complete gen, because it bores me after an hour and I grab my pickaxe and go melee on people's asses.

ha, I feel exactly like you on this matter. When I try archer I am so glad when I can finally go into melee. But there is one difference, I can perfectly understand why people (not me)  would have fun with this.

[Muki]

ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?

Do this and I uninstall, thats obviously not a threat, its just what I feel.

He be back they ALWAYS come back

[bagge]

good old casimir always spewing bullshit unaware that the change was made by shik

Oh, that's the explanation. Shik has like 10-11 PD, so biased!

[Brrrak]

I'm sorry but I just can't understand people that spend two their two years in the best medieval melee combat game ever created as an archer. They are just squandering the awesome gameplay mechanics that this game has. It's like spending all your time bowling while playing GTA IV.

I have never and will never try archery for a complete gen, because it bores me after an hour and I grab my pickaxe and go melee on people's asses.

Not my fault that Roman never wants to play darts.