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Your opinion on the turn rate nerf?

I like it.
70 (27.3%)
I liked it how it was.
130 (50.8%)
I'd prefer adjustments to the current settings (please state which).
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2012, 05:25:09 am »
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Bring back old turn system for Trident and Pitchfork only.
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2012, 07:02:05 pm »
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Plenty of people often do TK's that shouldn't be possible -- as proven by Kulin's gif -- where they always afterwards explain "I really don't know how that could have happened". Having seen and remembering both incidents from personal playing (2h+polearm) and from watching others I concur with Kulin, the overhead are just weird sometimes, who haven't seen someone kill a guy that they 100% did not hit.

Basically it feels like the game sometimes doesn't register turning (even though its nowhere near a 180) after having started the overhead swing, so the attack is static.
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #122 on: September 15, 2012, 05:29:00 pm »
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Plenty of people often do TK's that shouldn't be possible -- as proven by Kulin's gif -- where they always afterwards explain "I really don't know how that could have happened". Having seen and remembering both incidents from personal playing (2h+polearm) and from watching others I concur with Kulin, the overhead are just weird sometimes, who haven't seen someone kill a guy that they 100% did not hit.

Basically it feels like the game sometimes doesn't register turning (even though its nowhere near a 180) after having started the overhead swing, so the attack is static.

you're right there, using my polearm's stab i used to team hit all the time (post-turnrate nerf) ... now that i've used it a lot i can use it without team hitting, but it doesn't LOOK like im going to hit someone when i do hit them now ... really weird
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2012, 07:02:30 pm »
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2012, 07:28:33 pm »
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You need to keep turning while releasing attack, and you need to do quick and sudden change of direction while you do so.

Other guy should also be moving. Come to siege and try a maul, its easiest to reproduce it there.

I will maybe make a youtube video demonstrating it.

That's exactly what I tried. I even coded a bot that moved like the enemy in the first gif, but I didn't manage to get the bug even once.

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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #125 on: September 15, 2012, 07:29:46 pm »
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DTV still doesn't feature this nor the body absorption, and the first reason is one of those why I like the game-mode. The body absorption is a must-have right now, but the "turn rate nerf" is absurd. Not being able to play with overhead and thrust attacks a bit is a step back, in my opinion.

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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #126 on: September 15, 2012, 07:35:57 pm »
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I notice this a lot as well. Overhead is the most mysterious attack anyway :P
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #127 on: September 15, 2012, 09:49:14 pm »
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The only fuckery I notice with hitboxes that defintely aren't lag are from thrusts and that has been a problem since WSE first messed with hit time activations/ground collision.  Where a thrust the moment it begins the release animation hits a player behind and/or to your right because a forcefield appears around your hands, most often on polearms.

The overhead thing Kulin makes gif's of has never once happened to me and I've done plenty of mauling since the turn rate changes.  Weird though.
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #128 on: September 16, 2012, 10:14:48 am »
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quit complaining, and just get better.    im glad you cant do quick 180 vertical strikes anymore.

all you guys ever do is spam  side swing anyway... so why complain about the vertical strikes?

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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #129 on: September 16, 2012, 10:10:19 pm »
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As a side note, to fix the 2h overhead hit detection it would be nice to shorten the time the animation is "active". Or even better, make it so that hitting someone when at the end of the animation,your weapon has lost all momentum results in bounces. I'm sick of being hit for full damage in the foot by hammers that don't even move vertically anymore.

Same thing with 2h stabs, they definetly can hit without any problems long after what would make sense, even when the character is already moving the blade back towards it's body.

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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #130 on: September 18, 2012, 12:56:53 am »
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I dont like it either but it balances Cav manu nerf so it will be great unfairness if it is turned back the old version
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Re: Turn rate nerf
« Reply #131 on: September 18, 2012, 01:11:12 am »
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lrn2play.

quit complaining, and just get better.    im glad you cant do quick 180 vertical strikes anymore.

all you guys ever do is spam  side swing anyway... so why complain about the vertical strikes?

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