CROSSBOWS.

[djavo]

Do you really want this game to be Red Orchestra?

Bows are too strong compared to crossbows, they need to be nerfed to the ground. Add new stat "power camp" for crossbows. Problem solved.
Power camp 3*agi
Need 5 power camp for arbalest
4 for heavy crossbow
3 crossbow
2 light crosbow
1 hunting crossbow

POWER CAMP FTW!

[_Sebastian_]

I personally doubt that longbows above 160 lbs were used. More likely it was between 120 and 150 lbs, which are still very hard to draw. Many longbow archers were peasants who had to be forced by their king to train once a week. That guy in the video is a trained smith who probably has a more meat on his dinner plate in a month than the peasant in his lifetime. I'm sure he also practises archery more than the historical archer. I'd go as far to say that the best and strongest archers of all time live today.

Don't forget that many archers were trained soilders who trained nearly every day.
And no... the today archers are not the best in the history.

The most knowledge of building and shoting a bow has lost since the renaissance
So the today bowmakers(including me) relearnd everything by "do it your self"...
...there is no literary of bow-craft-techniques in the middle ages.

Go and buy some books about it.

So unless there was a secret forgotten longbow crafting technique that jacked up the bow efficiency up to composite bow levels, the test conducted today show the true nature ability of the longbow with up to 140 lbs draw weight and v0 = 50-60 m/s . The estimated upper draw weight limit for the Mary Rose bows of 200 lbs are fiction in my opinion. And even then a 200 lbs (one material) longbow wouldn't have a higher v0 or range. It would just be able to launch heavier arrows at about the same speed as weaker longbows launch lighter arrows. The starting velocity is limited by the "spring speed" of the material. This is kind of circumvented by composite bows though.

Wrong.
You could shot light arrows with high poundage bows.
It's not only the weight of the arrow which should fit to the bow, it is the spine(the stiffness) of the arrow shaft.
So a weaker bow needs an arrow with a lower spine... and a stronger bow needs a higher spine(but it the arrow weight could be the same).

The range world record of a self-bow(one material) was shot by Chief AJmit with a 200pound yew-warbow, the range was 557m(with flight arrows).
And you know that the weight of a flight arrow is ca. 20 to 30 gramms.

Bows are too strong compared to crossbows, they need to be nerfed to the ground. Add new stat "power camp" for crossbows. Problem solved.
Power camp 3*agi

1. Not really.
2. Power and agi ? That doesn't match.. do it with streght.
And the Arbalest should have a difficulty of 6"PC".

[Fasader]

power penis stat for crossbow.

[BlindGuy]

power penis stat for crossbow.

nono, the stat for crossbows is called:
Boring bastard. You need 6 Boring Bastard points to use a Campbalest at the top of the scale, and only 1 Boring bastard point for a Light Campybow.

@Paul: Renaissance "enlightement" has a lot to answer for, for starters they taught a RIDICULOUS archery style, which is carried on into olympic archery of today.

Archery was practised only once a week as a peasant: Once you were drafted (If your landlord said you were going for a soldier, you were going and that's that) you loosed arrows everyday, dont forget the English knights lived or died in France according to how their archers did, since they could never match the weight of numbers or gear fielded by the French. The english werent proud of the fact they used their archers as a primary weapon, but they accepted it, the goverment even sponsored their gear. England went thru so many bowstaves that large parts of european woodland suffered HUGE privations, due to loss of the entire population of yew. For 200 years, ANY ship that wished to dock in England HAD to bring yew bowstaves as an import tax, some for each measure of anything else they brought (the number varied according to need).

You cant honestly mean to tell me that all of that was done if the archers had not been OP. They were obviously OP. As to weights: I could draw 90 pounder when I was 15, I now confortably draw a 140 pounder and can hit the butts at 100 yards with 9 of 12. I'm not even 6 feet tall. A large man can shoot 180 pounds 200 yards with 50% bunches, and I can easily believe a seasoned pro can draw 200 and 220 pounds without rupturing himself. I would probably drop a trousertrout if I tried, but I'm scrawny too.

As to that blacksmith getting more meat than an archer from way back when: Archers dont go hungry mate, they got bows...