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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 02:33:47 am »
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Cut feels a bit too lackluster at the non-MW stages anyway, but I don't have anything to add to that discussion. I do feel that at the least a reduction in the amount of free wpp would be warranted. It is pretty ridiculous that I can use no WM whatsoever and still be effective with the added benefit of having free skill points to put into IF or what have you. I'd say somewhere between a total of 50-60 in one prof at level 30 with no WM. A moderate advantage over 0 prof. Of course making a change like this retroactively would hurt a lot of people who have stopped retiring or don't retire.
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 03:52:05 am »
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The problem with increasing damage from hits to the head, is that it's 2x the buff to 1hers as it is to anything else since their left swing tends to hit heads, constantly, even when that isn't a player's goal. Not that I'm saying 1hers couldn't use a little buff, I'm just saying make sure all of what you're advocating is intended.
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2011, 05:13:05 am »
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No to the op of buffing cut. I see cut users do just fine on the scoreboards and even in my terrible hands.

As for finding ways to buff agi, this is not the way to do it, as screwing up wpf will severely damage existing builds.
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2011, 04:43:36 pm »
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What about this:
Make cut damage even more negated by armour.
Increase the cut damage for weapons a lot. Thus, making them very bad against armour and almost instakill against unarmoured.
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2011, 04:48:31 pm »
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What about this:
Make cut damage even more negated by armour.
Increase the cut damage for weapons a lot. Thus, making them very bad against armour and almost instakill against unarmoured.
Errrrr, no =).

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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2011, 04:50:50 pm »
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What about this:
Make cut damage even more negated by armour.
Increase the cut damage for weapons a lot. Thus, making them very bad against armour and almost instakill against unarmoured.
worst suggestion ever, you noob!

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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2011, 04:58:16 pm »
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worst suggestion ever, you noob!
D: Y U NO TELL WHYYYYYY?!?!?
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2011, 04:58:26 pm »
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im not sure thats a good idea unless you want ninjas to be raping everyone with superfast high damage katanas
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2011, 05:00:32 pm »
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im not sure thats a good idea unless you want ninjas to be raping everyone with superfast high damage katanas
And mail armour would make them do the same damage they do to mail now and plate would almost ignore cut damage? Did people just read the first part of my suggestion D:
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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2011, 12:25:25 am »
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As it says in the title. Free wpp or wpp you gain per level is the main reason why STR builds are more efficient than AGI based builds. Without free wpp they will be forced to have at least 3 WM (WM is completely marginalized at the moment).

About cut damage... well it's crap against everything. Guy with enough IF and heavy STR build while wearing wool cap or straw hat can survive overhead from MW danish and PS 6 which is... LULZ. Also some archers wearing low armor helmet can survive an overhead. I need to jump slash them in order to kill them because without speed bonus damage is pure crap

On the other hand while having 71 BA and 60 HP I lose 40-55% from one hit of most MW pierce weapons...

I'm pretty sure this suggestion will be down voted by forums retards like Digglez and co. but I still decided to try to give some decent feedback from my personal experience. I know it probably won't be taken into account but pierce and blunt damage are much more effienct in typical battle situations that negative features like unbalanced don't make much difference. Either nerf those two types so they make about 30-35% more damage compared to cut, not like it's now in some situations 200% more... or buff cut damage which you can easily call crap damage as well.

And yes I'm biased but at least I'm way better player than usual forum retards like Digglez, Joxer and others whose names I can't remember atm.

This is especially bad for 1h players.

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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2011, 04:31:06 pm »
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What about this:
Make cut damage even more negated by armour.
Increase the cut damage for weapons a lot. Thus, making them very bad against armour and almost instakill against unarmoured.

I would join the maulwaggon the day this is happening.

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Re: Remove free wpp and buff cut damage
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2011, 05:15:04 pm »
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This is especially bad for 1h players.

Why?