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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 03:06:07 am »
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bad post sorry
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 04:09:04 am »
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The chance that no item goes bust is actually c^n, where c is chance that an item won't go bust and n is number of items used. So if you use 8 items and chance per item to go bust is 20%, then the chance that none of them breaks is 0.8^8, which is ~0.17, or 17%, which means that in average out of 6 rounds, only in one nothing will break.
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 04:30:27 am »
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And you gain less gold, so you're more or less the same in the end.

Only if the round actually ends shorter, which doesn't seem to be the case most times. Personally, I tried to be as aggressive as possible to reduce the costs of repairs since my death doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2011, 04:34:16 am »
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sorry, double post
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2011, 04:34:42 am »
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ffffffff triple stupid edit button
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2011, 01:25:08 pm »
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The chance that no item goes bust is actually c^n, where c is chance that an item won't go bust and n is number of items used. So if you use 8 items and chance per item to go bust is 20%, then the chance that none of them breaks is 0.8^8, which is ~0.17, or 17%, which means that in average out of 6 rounds, only in one nothing will break.

so many things wrong about this... hmmm, where to start.

if theres 8 items and 4% chance per item then ur base number of 20% is wrong and is actually 32%.
and as its been stated previously in this post that the chances for a break is 4%*m  ( m = overall minutes the round lasts)
you my friend get a troll point  xD
1 + 1 = 14,249  Duh!

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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2011, 08:22:01 pm »
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so many things wrong about this... hmmm, where to start.

if theres 8 items and 4% chance per item then ur base number of 20% is wrong and is actually 32%.
and as its been stated previously in this post that the chances for a break is 4%*m  ( m = overall minutes the round lasts)
you my friend get a troll point  xD
Maybe you should try to think before you post, because the 20% per item chance is 4% * 5 Minutes. Thanks for the troll point, btw, I kind of like them.
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2011, 11:15:56 pm »
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We're defenitely not playing the same game. I run around with 30k equipment and can hardly upkeep it.

Same here. I can usually maintain my 20k gear, and I make a good amount of gold when my team is on a winning streak, i.e. 5x multipliers. But my gold level stagnates or even drops when I'm on 1x.
I can only imagine what it would be like if I added another ~15k for an average horse.

I understand that upkeep is SUPPOSED to make it harder to ride around as a tincan on a plated charger, but the thing is that as an individual, I don't have a great influence on the money I make.
I.e. if I'm in a shit team, I can be as good as I want, I'm going to lose money anyway.

Imho personal achievement should be factored into earnings (and possibly xp). In that respect, the old system was better. (Though I understand that it made tactical maneuvers next to impossible due to the "huddle bonus".)

Would it be possible to factor dealt damage (yours and possibly that of people in your immediate vicinity) into earnings and xp?
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2011, 03:27:14 am »
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I can maintain what I use when I am lucky else I can get bankrupt if everything gets repaired per round.

A durable but cheap chest costs you on 300 repair tough you could go with lamellar which is cheaper.

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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2011, 11:44:01 am »
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Yeah. with 40 - 50k gear i make a small amount of money overall.   With 20 - 25k gear i make a ton of money.
definitely not the same game here, too. I make some money with my 12k gear but not tons of it.

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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2011, 07:39:05 pm »
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We're defenitely not playing the same game. I run around with 30k equipment and can hardly upkeep it.

lol cRPG?

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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2011, 07:48:47 pm »
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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2011, 02:03:43 am »
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It kinda depends on what kind of equipment you have overall.

For example:
If character1 is running around with 8 equiment, together costing 20k.
And Character2 is running around with 1 equipment, costing 20k.

The overall chance of all 8 equipment to break is lower than Character2's weapon.

tl;dr.
Running around with a mixture of gear is much more worth it than having this 10k+ weapon or so.
That's atleast what I have felt from my cavalry were I have a Sarranid Warhorse which goes for 25k alone.
Sometimes you're just unlucky and the horse breaks over and over. While the decently cheap equipment is no problem at all.

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Re: Upkeep on the up and up?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2011, 11:03:23 pm »
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