Thx for buffing the archers

[Liveon]

Also the stats you posted where wrong.

Yeah, May 12, changed the name and specifaction old pike=long spear ... mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ...
but look, when I wrote about it, first time...

EOT, finally...
 

[PikeDan]

Battle Archers are still possible with 18/21, 4 PS, 6PD, 7WM, 6 Ath 150ish WPF in Archery and 80ish in your melee weapon skill of choice, and it's a blast if you go with one of the few 1slot 2h's such as the Spiked Mace or the 2h messer, I think Langs, pardon the spelling mistakes. Hybriding is still very much possible if you plan out your build properly and are going with an AGI build of some sort.

With a Heirloomed Warbow at Fine, Heirloomed arrows and all of that good stuff you get a

Fine Warbow (or Fine Longbow, either or for me, I'm going to be finishing my Masterwork Warbow by the time I finish this gen).
Large Bag of Bodkin Arrows
a 1slot 2h

It works out well and makes you into a good battle archer, perfect for siege because you won't be forced to stand on the walls while the other team descends on the flag.

[Hirlok]

Fine Warbow (or Fine Longbow, either or for me, I'm going to be finishing my Masterwork Warbow by the time I finish this gen).
Large Bag of Bodkin Arrows
a 1slot 2h

there is no such thing - only 1H

plus you are crippled by too few arrows and/or a weak bow (I do the same thing right now with Khergit, 2 quivers, 1H mace - and it sucks)

Sure it is still "possible" to hybridize, but worse than before and nothing compared to all the unnerfed 2H/pole hybrids that are running around etc...

[PikeDan]

Excuse me. 1slot 1h/2h. Spiked Mace, Fighting Axe, Langs Messer are all a single slot.

[Prpavi]

unnerfed 2H/pole hybrids that are running around etc...

explain...

[Keshian]

Excuse me. 1slot 1h/2h. Spiked Mace, Fighting Axe, Langs Messer are all a single slot.

Im finding those to be crap hybrids as if you are moving (footwork) or blocking hitting x to switch to secondary mode 2hander doesn't work, so you see an enemy approaching, take your last shot, switch to melee weapon in time, hit x and block their attack then swing back... and they hit you a second time (kill you if head hit) before you finish your attack because you are still stuck in 1handed mode with 1 wpf speed.  I wish you could set your default primary mode on the website like you set your default weapons.  The whole point of ana rcher havign a melee wepaon si he can fight in melee when someone gets close, but you have to stand completely still not blocking or moving when youa re hitting the x key, which will get you killed in most circumstances as why would you switch to melee unless the enemy was gtting to close.

[EponiCo]

You just press x once at the spawn and it stays in 2h mode for the entire round. Not that the messer isn't a top 1h in the first place.

[Hirlok]

explain...

the patch, among other things, was meant to kill hybrids, officially.
This worked very well for archers, the better xbows, and partially throwers.

But 2h/pole is not very much affected by the slot system, still no problem carrying a big sword AND a bec, pike, 1h/shield, whatever.
Very realistic, and very much in the spirit of "pure" classes, that seem to be so important when it comes to archers...

[Tzar]

But 2h/pole is not very much affected by the slot system, still no problem carrying a big sword AND a bec, pike, whatever.
Very realistic, and very much in the spirit of "pure" classes, that seem to be so important when it comes to archers...

Because 2h/pole arent ranged weapons you tool... 

Btw make normal xbow take 2 slots and finish the ranged plauge spreading from this source

[Hirlok]

Because 2h/pole arent ranged weapons you tool... 

your point being? besides ranged-hate and being impolite as to be expected from a melee brute?

[PikeDan]

You just press x once at the spawn and it stays in 2h mode for the entire round. Not that the messer isn't a top 1h in the first place.

This, Press X once, and you've got yourself a good 2h that can deal with most things if they get close

Nevermind the ridiculous knockdown from the Spiked mace (Note: You don't even need to press X to use the damn thing in 2h, it's 2h 'till you use a shield, and I doubt you'll see too many archer/shielder builds nowadays.)