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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2013, 07:10:02 pm »
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That's not a nerf to throwing lances, that's a nerf to people with 5/6 WM that are above level 30, meaning it's not weapon specific. Although it may affect throwing lances more often than other weapons, it's build specific. A weapon nerf would be a nerf to 100% of the builds that use the weapon, but that's not the case.

How you choose to talk about something influences how you(and others) end up thinking about it.

Yes, but then you can't have a 21/21 thrower/melee hybrid, without sacrificing almost everything else or being level 34.  18 agi is really just about the upper limit for a throwing lance build that also wants to melee.

The fun with throwing lance is pure thrower don't use them a lot (except 1 or 2 cavs throwers) cause of low ammo. We don't spend 7 or more points in PT if it's just for playing throwers 1 minutes.

Add something like "Light throwing lance" with less requirement and less damage could be nice for hybrid.

Throwing spear or Jarids.
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2013, 07:40:01 pm »
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Throwing spear or Jarids.

Jarids 40 pierce vs throwing lance 60 pierce.
Big difference, something miss between these 2 options.

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2013, 09:15:44 pm »
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Jarids 40 pierce vs throwing lance 60 pierce.
Big difference, something miss between these 2 options.
Something along 50p, 2 ammo?
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2013, 09:38:55 pm »
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Something along 50p, 2 ammo?

No cause HTA will be (more ?  :( ) useless. As I said I'm thinking about a kind of  "Light Throwing lance" with less requirement and damage. Like what javelins are for jarids.

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2013, 09:46:34 pm »
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No cause HTA will be (more ?  :( ) useless. As I said I'm thinking about a kind of  "Light Throwing lance" with less requirement and damage. Like what javelins are for jarids.
lol at calling HTA useless, it is sort of a niche weapon atm, very useful if used right though.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2013, 10:05:50 pm »
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lol at calling HTA useless, it is sort of a niche weapon atm, very useful if used right though.

Yes useless was a bad word. I wanted to say something like "Unbalance compare with jarids, not fair for axe throwers users/lovers"

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2013, 10:38:31 pm »
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No cause HTA will be (more ?  :( ) useless. As I said I'm thinking about a kind of  "Light Throwing lance" with less requirement and damage. Like what javelins are for jarids.
HTA needing a buff (better melee is my suggestion) doesn't mean we shouldn't have some sort of 2 ammo spear throwing weapon.

Also, HTA still got it's uses, but mainly for it's price.
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2013, 04:52:03 pm »
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Raising the requirements of heavy gear sounds more favorable to me, at least for consistency's sake.
100% agree, but it would hurt some classes (like archery) if we raised the top weapons/gear to only suit "pure" builds (or more dedicated builds).  I do think there needs to be more 21 and above str requirements on certain armor and weapons. 
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 06:58:15 am »
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HMMM u get less wpf with 5 weaponmaster but you need less wpf to use throwing lance i say just leave it alone.

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 01:27:00 pm »
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It's fine. Throwing lances are and should be for the dedicated.

HT is far from useless! With speed bonus they do near Heavy Xbow damage with javs! Just a question of time before more people discover it. They are good against other cav too.
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2013, 05:11:25 pm »
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It's fine. Throwing lances are and should be for the dedicated.

HT is far from useless! With speed bonus they do near Heavy Xbow damage with javs! Just a question of time before more people discover it. They are good against other cav too.
Javs are completely shit, either the guy who shot you had 10 pt or he was using jarrids/spears.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2013, 05:53:45 pm »
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wasnt jarids, but perhaps spears then :)

Anyway, on a high speed horse, they hit like a truck!
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Re: So, was the throwing lance nerfed with this recent wpf change?
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2013, 08:09:50 pm »
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Just like everything else.
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