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Strategus Issues / Re: Map Problems - please report them here
« on: October 08, 2012, 05:10:50 pm »
After being beaten in a battle I respawned outside of the map and cannot re enter
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 26, 2012, 07:09:34 pm »
I like the idea of anonymity as a merc. So that could be something long-term they address if they decide it fits.
It would be awesome if there was some acknowledgement from devs that the current system could use more work
It would be awesome if there was some acknowledgement from devs that the current system could use more work
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 26, 2012, 02:59:40 am »
If I recall I was 2nd place on the team only miggy had me beat. Though it's irrelevant. I'm more focused on the process of mercing being more integrated into the website
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 26, 2012, 01:24:52 am »
Well I do understand how the current process works.
What I am proposing in this topic is that the feature be changed by the developers to make a contract automatically pay the people who's application were accepted.
It would be awesome if people please stop posting in here explaining how to work around the current system, because while that's helpful.. it's not what this is about.
Devs please reread original post and take it to heart. If you want to see mercs take this mod seriously, this is the first step!
What I am proposing in this topic is that the feature be changed by the developers to make a contract automatically pay the people who's application were accepted.
It would be awesome if people please stop posting in here explaining how to work around the current system, because while that's helpful.. it's not what this is about.
Devs please reread original post and take it to heart. If you want to see mercs take this mod seriously, this is the first step!
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 24, 2012, 11:19:56 pm »There is a whole forum dedicated to negotiating pay for individual battles: http://forum.meleegaming.com/mercenary-recruitment/ you can also send people private messages on the forum and the cRPG page itself if you just click on the guy commanding the battle. Sure you can just show up to a battle and say "give me money" but they probably won't pay, and trying to revamp the system wouldn't change anything, except bonus pay.
The biggest benefit this has over a fixed contract is performance based pay. If I say the players with the top 5 KDRs get 500, and everyone with a positive KDR gets 100, and everyone below 1:1: gets 50. Or if I wanted to pay everyone a base price of 100g and then multiply that by their KDR then dole out additional funds to people who guarded the spawn flags and maybe not get as many kills. I can do that without having people try and guess how well they are going to do.
The system gives great incentive to join the fight as a free company, experience points for your cRPG character. If you are good enough and request money you will probably get it.
Enforcing a contract would mean that some merc could show up for 1000 gold and then if he doesn't do anything or starts teamkilling and gets himself banned I would then have to pay him that 1,000.
Revamping the system would create a streamlined process for everyone to follow. If done right it would revolutionize the merc trade. I think you're not giving the idea as much credit as you could
Well experience points, woohoo. I have been playing this game for almost two years. I would rather receive monetary compensation for my time.
Your last scenario entices me. Yes that could happen, so what? That person just screwed themselves from ever participating in battles again
I think the current system gives the person hosting the fight too much control, and that power will always go unchecked.
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 24, 2012, 10:47:41 pm »You need to negotiate merc rates beforehand if you want to get paid. Some clans do need dedicated and exclusive mercs, and would be willing to work out a contract.
But why can't that feature be built into the system?
You are saying I need to get in the hot tub with the leaders of the real shit, show them they need my help, and negotiate pay for every battle? That's a lot to ask. What about just submitting a contract request with a negotiable pay rate from cRPG website
This system has been in place since Strategus 1, and I really don't see a problem with it. Most merc agreements are organized on a clan level, and only the best independent players would ever hope to make any money for a strat battle, and becoming enemies with good players by not paying them is never a good idea.
That being said, with this new banking system you might see people refuse to merc without at least some sort of payment, but it would take a lot of people since there are a lot of people willing to fight for free just for the experience.
So many changes have been made both to the UI and gameplay since Strategus 1, why can't the pay request feature be improved upon like the rest? I am sorry I am not making things clearer for you, but the system gives little incentive to join a fight as a free company
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 24, 2012, 10:34:57 pm »Well I think it is probably good the way it is. I mean it suck they didn't pay you but at the same time it does allow for a bit of realism I suppose. If someone backs out on your contracted rate, you let everyone know and other mercs/sellswords won't be willing to work for them. At the same time, the people who day pay you appropriately, you would work for again most likely.
I was just testing the system really. I can't say I agree with your assessment of the realism because currently the client can back out of the agreement before the fight by retracting the application. The merc can choose to reapply without pay if they really want to fight.
Currently, there is little incentive to follow through on the deal
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Strategus General Discussion / Re: Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 24, 2012, 10:29:14 pm »In 99% of all cases you won't get gold. After all you are joining a battle for fun and experience. The battle leader might decide to give people some gold, but he is of course not forced to do so.
This doesn't have to be removed or changed.
You are stating the facts.
Fact 1: In 99% of all cases you won't get gold.
Fact 2: The battle leader might decide to give people some gold, but he is of course not forced to do so.
Am I joining the battle for fun and experience? I don't believe anyone can decide if it's fun and rewarding for me except myself.
I would like to see the facts change so that we can increase the number of sellswords applying to fight in battles. I think in order for true mercs to take this mod seriously they first need a guarantee from their client
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Strategus General Discussion / Sellswords in Strat
« on: September 24, 2012, 10:09:49 pm »
So yesterday I fought in a battle asking for 1k gold (I didn't realize it was strat gold at the time, oops).
After we won the fight, I noticed they weren't required to pay me. So what gives?
Either clarify you're entering into an agreement that you probably won't make money on (and also clarify it's strat gold), or just do away with it altogether.
A show of hands how many people think the systems broken
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After we won the fight, I noticed they weren't required to pay me. So what gives?
Either clarify you're entering into an agreement that you probably won't make money on (and also clarify it's strat gold), or just do away with it altogether.
A show of hands how many people think the systems broken
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Unban Essays / Re: Unban essay.
« on: September 21, 2012, 05:55:45 am »
He has been through the gauntlet and survived. Unban him and take away some loompoints and put his cash in the lottery!
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General Discussion / Re: NA Servers - Game Admin applications OPEN
« on: September 21, 2012, 05:44:51 am »
I'm interested in being an admin. I would make a fine candidate because I follow all the rules, have been playing since Winter of 2010, and have the time to devote to the cause.
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General Discussion / Re: Can we all just thank ourselves and the player base?
« on: September 19, 2012, 06:02:35 am »
Can we all just take a moment to thank Spook Island?
GG
GG
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General Discussion / Re: Can we all just thank chadz and the dev team?
« on: September 19, 2012, 05:39:39 am »14
Unban Essays / Re: Unban essay.
« on: September 17, 2012, 11:30:48 pm »
You offered him two loomed items worth a total of 4 looms for his +3. But you only paid up 1
I see that as fraud.. and a good reason to be banned
Imagine if you were him, and feeling the frustration he must be going through. Not cool. Did you apologize? return the item?
How can we be sure this won't happen again? I think you still have a lot more to say and are holding back
I see that as fraud.. and a good reason to be banned
Imagine if you were him, and feeling the frustration he must be going through. Not cool. Did you apologize? return the item?
How can we be sure this won't happen again? I think you still have a lot more to say and are holding back
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Unban Essays / Re: The Greatest Unban Essay Ever Written (Expression, Freedom, Maturity, & Honesty)
« on: September 11, 2012, 04:10:40 am »
Spook was supportive of the cRPG community, just not in a conventional manner. He contributed just like everyone else to the fight, maybe even more so than some others I would say on a regular basis. Though I don't know what accusations are against him, I know him as a player and it is not within his nature to bring people down or snipe confidence from teammates because that would be counterproductive to his gaming goals. For example, earning x5 multiple maps in a row requires team cohesion.
Bjord is really coming off as a fascist, and I don't like it. There is a thin line between having a supporting community and having a community that must be nice to each other all the fucking time. I don't want any part of the latter.
10/10 well written unban essay
Bjord is really coming off as a fascist, and I don't like it. There is a thin line between having a supporting community and having a community that must be nice to each other all the fucking time. I don't want any part of the latter.
10/10 well written unban essay
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