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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 17, 2011, 02:58:34 am »

No... more like I'm the one who watches you two TK each other and tells you both that "I don't care who started it, knock it off." Having 3/4 of your post a massive edit all about "Hey I am now talking about you acting like a moron and about your siggy which has nothing to do with the conversation at hand" is a trend that I am getting tired of.

This is not me having a blind sense of justice, this is me reminding you that this is a "Game Balance Discussion" so we should focus on Game Balance not hurl insults.

And yet here you are, mired in what you're on a one-man crusade to defeat (lol). You should try to see the funny side instead of getting your knickers in a twist like this.

What he did was funny, what I did in response was funny, and then what you did (even though you unwittingly made yourself the butt of your own joke) was the icing on the cake.

But this is going to get even funnier if someone comes along and insults all 3 of us, so here's hoping lol 

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: New upkeep system intended that way?

« on: July 16, 2011, 08:33:11 pm »

How about instead of upkeep you get rewarded dependant on your equipment.

So you earn nothing at all and get no XP if you're spending over a certain amount.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 16, 2011, 08:29:15 pm »

but there is really something, there happened some changes to Shields, speed-weight-formula
and the way a 1h-shield Chars is acting now.

I totally agree bro

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 16, 2011, 08:23:17 pm »

Being a subtle jerk still makes you a jerk.
If you think someone else is a jerk, there is no excuse to stoop to that level...

Well, since you've joined us, I think I am in good company, don't you?

Joking aside, you're not helping him or me or anyone else by calling us both jerks. It's none of your business ;)

You remind me of that situation where one person intentionally TKs another, and then that person TKs them back, but then you step in and TK the retaliator. I think you're making it a farce with your blind sense of justice, you're really just making things worse.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Why oh why are 2h and pole arms still OP?

« on: July 16, 2011, 02:39:15 pm »

shielders shouldn't look for kills but should cover pikemen and 2handers while they flank or crush with a frontal charge.

That's exactly what's 'killing the mod' for me. I might as well carry 2 shields if I'm just meant to be a mobile pavise.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 16, 2011, 02:15:22 pm »

BAM! Stole it

You realise there is no shield in that list?

'BAM! Stole it ' doesn't do much to reassure me that you have the sense to understand what I wrote, quite the opposite in fact.

edit:

Oh I think I have unravelled the mystery you present: Yes, with that sig, you will make me look stupid to people that are stupid.

I have no problem with that, I don't care what stupid people think. It's par for the course that they don't grasp my awesome insights (lol)

But I'd hate to be left with the impression you've given (that you're a moron) if I am wrong, so please correct me if I am somehow mistaken.

Thanks ;)

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 16, 2011, 11:16:34 am »

Yeah, dueling with short weapons is a bitch unless you're an agi build. Especially since most pole and 2-handers are a lot faster than you. Using teamwork in battle though...they are pretty great.

I used to use the broad one handed axe (73) and recently switched to the steel pick (64) since the axe seems to suck now - Swords have cut damage that comes pretty close! And picks just do tons more damage! Which just makes it a silly option! - so that change probably does account for some of the new problem of shields being useless to a player like me.

But I'm not convinced that 73+shield is practical for fighting without cowering-behind-teammates* (*Teamwork? For shielders only? Nursemaids to 2h and polearms? ) anymore. And frankly I think that a  style of playing, the one I've been using for way way more than 1000 hours since the first wipe, has been pretty much removed.

I think 2h, polearms and 1h are being promoted as the only choices. I appreciate that manual block is fun, I just think it's a shame to force everyone with an ounce of bravery (and a ton of skill ) down that route.

I'm probably going to switch to nordic (Olwen-the-Hero) champion or spammitar, and learn to fight while walking backwards all the time since 2h and polearms are currently unrealistically better close up... Or just stop playing 1h+ shield if I still can't enjoy the game that way.

I actually do quite well with polearms and spamming, even though I'm not very good at manual block, because it makes the game easy. But easy kills are boring.... Oh what to do?.... lol

Morningstar lost crushthrough about 5 patches ago and bar mace 3 patches ago...

Sorry to confuse you, I'm talking about the game's rebalancing regardless of patch, I probably should have started my own thread.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 16, 2011, 12:26:10 am »

rustyspoon says 'I duel with my 1-hander (without a shield) all the time. Totally doable. If you watch for weapon stun, you can really take people apart since 1-handers are so fast.'

(You put your responses in my post so I can't quote you! How annoying! grrr lol)

You missed the point I made - that dueling with a shield used to be quite practical. But I should probably add to this that I use a short weapon, since it contributes a lot to the problem I face with being slowed and stunned for using a shield.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Why oh why are 2h and pole arms still OP?

« on: July 16, 2011, 12:18:29 am »

Poles and 2h are able to cheat this by spinning and swinging at the ground.

Those 2h/polearm swings that wind up coming out of the floor are one of the most annoying things this shielder gets hit by. And the guy is rediculously bent over which makes a headshot very hard. I wish it would just bounce off the floor for them.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Why oh why are 2h and pole arms still OP?

« on: July 16, 2011, 12:06:57 am »

lol those guys can't even stand up reliably...

The main reason why fighting without a shield became popular was because it was a pain to carry shield.

And I think it is more about popularity than effectiveness, hence sexy swords of penis extension rather than maces and axes.

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Game Balance Discussion / Re: Shields got nerfed way too much....

« on: July 15, 2011, 11:42:25 pm »

Recently I notice shields seem to suck in these ways:

Getting hit through the shield by polearms and 2h swords.
Having movement, and turning, apparently stopped by blocking a light weapon.
Occasionally being unable to strike back before your opponent who is using a light weapon.
Hitting an opponent and their stagger moving them out of range for a follow up.
Bolts going through a huscarl with no sound of impact on the shield.
Lag when turning.
Slower striking from shield raised.
Less damage inflicted.
They used to be a lot more fun, even when 2h was ridiculously OP.
And it used to be practical to duel with one.

I think if you're at a high level of proficiency with 1h and shield, or you favor a long weapon and a backing away style, then you won't notice this lot so much.

On the bright side:

MS and barmace aren't crushing through anymore.
Shields seem to last a little longer.
2h is so not OP.

I find myself wondering if someone played too much WoW before balancing them, and thus concluded that they should suit defensive style.

And also wondering, as I have since the cap arrived, what the game would be like if we retired at 34, and ~12m xp, because shielders need to put points in shield and athletics.

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General Discussion / Re: How do I get people kicked for not reading the text in the game?

« on: July 13, 2011, 08:29:17 pm »

Well thanks for the advice, Tears_of_Destiny, I appreciate it 

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General Discussion / Re: How do I get people kicked for not reading the text in the game?

« on: July 13, 2011, 08:02:42 pm »

But also, why would I be moving around? I can stand still for a moment and get griefed by it with no recourse, from the sounds of things.

Just chat to me to set me up, job done. lol it's like a new gameplay mechanic...

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General Discussion / Re: How do I get people kicked for not reading the text in the game?

« on: July 13, 2011, 08:00:26 pm »

So instead of pressing 'm', I can get them banned? ... That seems unjust.

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General Discussion / Re: How do I get people kicked for not reading the text in the game?

« on: July 13, 2011, 07:56:36 pm »

Sounds nice in principle, but what would a screenshot show? ... Sorry if I am being slow here, but I can't see any way of providing evidence